Comments Thread For: Cotto Fight Won’t Show Canelo How to Win, Floyd Says

[nathan_nall]

It was only a matter of time before someone made this about Floyd vs Pacquiao.

Like most people who watched the fight, I felt it was as clear a decision as you can hope for. Sure, Floyd allowed the fight to go toe to toe, which he doesn't normally do, which may have given people such as yourself a false perception, but to say he struggled to win a decision is laughable.

Just goes to show how on another level Floyd is, that when he wins a clear decision that's not a 12-round shut-out for once, people start building it up into something completely different.

Another poster on this forum described Floyd vs Cotto as a life or death battle! Why, because he actually got punched in the face for once? FFS.....

I don't think it is Floyd vs. Pacquiao. I think it is saying that the fight with Pacquiao took something out of Cotto, and he wasn't the same fighter against Mayweather as he would have been had he NOT faced Pacquiao. Floyd himself has said as much about Pacquiao, that Pac only faces his sloppy seconds. The biggest difference is that Pacquiao defeated each of them more convincingly (with the exception of JMM of course)... but maybe that is because they weren't the same after Floyd. Either way, regardless of wether or not it is true, it is a valid argument. Who here doesn't think that the Margarito fight took something permanently away from Cotto? He went from prime to slighly sub-prime because of a savage, and illegal, beating. He took a worse beating from Pacquiao and then fought Floyd. The poster was only making the brief point that after Pacman, Cotto was sub-sub-sub-sub-prime. But I think maybe you already knew that... or maybe once you saw "Pacquiao" and "Floyd" in the same post, you stopped reading and made up your mind.

[nycsmooth]

he can study them, but not emulate them as he can't change his style 4 the 2 guys mentioned...so many theories as what Alvarez must do, but 1 thing he can't do, as in Trout's bout, is throw 5 punches per round, still, the blind judges gave him 1 of those 5 punch rounds...2 late 2 change now, training is over...

[nathan_nall]

he can study them, but not emulate them as he can't change his style 4 the 2 guys mentioned...so many theories as what Alvarez must do, but 1 thing he can't do, as in Trout's bout, is throw 5 punches per round, still, the blind judges gave him 1 of those 5 punch rounds...2 late 2 change now, training is over...

Well said. Canelo is become an old dog as far as what style suits him best, and you know what they say about old dogs and new tricks. Still, if the only thing he has to do is increase output, that shouldn't be too hard of an adjustment. Hopkins did it at the age of 74 when he got tired of losing close decisions for his lack of output. Sometimes I swore Hopkins only through 5 punches a fight.

But we both know Canelo will need to make much more complex adjustments than just stepping up output. For one, he needs to be more hands on and absolutely bulldog Floyd. Hell, he'd be better served watching Hatton vs. Tszyu than he would Cotto vs. Floyd.

[cameltoe]

I don't think it is Floyd vs. Pacquiao. I think it is saying that the fight with Pacquiao took something out of Cotto, and he wasn't the same fighter against Mayweather as he would have been had he NOT faced Pacquiao. Floyd himself has said as much about Pacquiao, that Pac only faces his sloppy seconds. The biggest difference is that Pacquiao defeated each of them more convincingly (with the exception of JMM of course)... but maybe that is because they weren't the same after Floyd. Either way, regardless of wether or not it is true, it is a valid argument. Who here doesn't think that the Margarito fight took something permanently away from Cotto? He went from prime to slighly sub-prime because of a savage, and illegal, beating. He took a worse beating from Pacquiao and then fought Floyd. The poster was only making the brief point that after Pacman, Cotto was sub-sub-sub-sub-prime. But I think maybe you already knew that... or maybe once you saw "Pacquiao" and "Floyd" in the same post, you stopped reading and made up your mind.

So the poster is insinuating, that the Cotto that Pac destroyed, was a far more fearsome beast that the Cotto Floyd 'struggled' with.

So we basically agree, it goes back to Pac vs Floyd.

I recommend you re-read your post and tell me it's not about Pac vs Floyd. It's all you're talking about.

If that ain't true then please tell me how the hell any of this relates to Floyd vs Canelo.

[El Angel]

You can refuse to believe it all you want, but facts are facts. Floyd showed in the very next fight that he as his legs and can move the way he wants to. Tell us all what Cotto did so differently from everyone else that MADE Floyd stand there right in front of him rather than moving around the ring. Let me guess... the Jedi Mind Trick?

Yeah Floyd got hit because he wanted to entertain. He's always in it for the fans right? Whatever makes you sleep at night.

12 fans where, here on this site? Belittling Matthysse's best win, IF he wins...doesn't make sense.

Plenty of Matthysse fans have already said Peterson is better than Garcia. He is and even after he destroys Garcia, he beat a better fighter in Peterson.

This has to be possibly the ******est comparison/outlook that I've ever read-no disrespect, lmao.

You see Stevens being hyped? By who?

Read and learn well, I don't have to like GG or root for him, got that?

Half the time all I read is how sorry he is and how he lost to Jesse Brinkley.

I could give a fuck if you like GGG, I'm not a fan either.

Who's hyping Curtis Stevens?? YOU! Didn't you post he was scaring GGG during the staredown? Whatever you say man, everyone who read this back and forth knows exactly how you are now, if they didn't already know before.

[BoxingJunkie]

That's the Floyd Mayweather I wouldn't mind watching get knocked out.

Yeah, because your boy certainly couldn't do it...

[The Noose]

Great response from Floyd. lol. That was sharp.

But yes, there is no blueprint, and the only thing his opponents can do is look at the few successes fighters have had against floyd.

Canelo does have a decent chance, but i needs to be twice as good as he was against Trout.

[PAC-BOY]

Canelo will do much worst