Will Pacquiao be considered the greatest of this current generation over Mayweather?

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  • The Tase
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    #61
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Have to disagree with most things you say. I'm not sure if Ledwabo and a very war torn Barrera is better than Castillo and Corrales to be honest, not at all.

    Better version of Hatton? I don't think so. A weight drained Cotto? No thanks. I don't buy it.

    With regards to the bold, actually it has a whole lot do with it. The art of pugilism is exactly an art of hitting and not getting hit.
    lol at cotto being weight drained. barerra was p4p #3 universally and was on a long winning streak before and after manny faced him the first time. Hatton when floyd faced him was really coming off a loss to collazo at welter weight while pacquiao faced him when he was winning and at his normal weight where he's undefeated.

    To say castillo corrales floyd win is better than pacquiao mab 1 win along with the rest of your posts just reeks of flowmosexual behavior.

    You need to go to a clinic and get that checked out.

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    • HeroBando
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      #62
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Have to disagree with most things you say. I'm not sure if Ledwabo and a very war torn Barrera is better than Castillo and Corrales to be honest, not at all.

      Better version of Hatton? I don't think so. A weight drained Cotto? No thanks. I don't buy it.

      With regards to the bold, actually it has a whole lot do with it. The art of pugilism is exactly an art of hitting and not getting hit.
      GTFO with weight drained Cotto. He ran like the wind from the midget for 6 rounds, you can't do that drained.

      And GTFO with very war torn Barrera, he was #3 p4p. Now MAB 2 is a blip on Pac's resume, and probably JMM's #2 scalp.

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      • LacedUp
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        #63
        Originally posted by The Tase
        lol at cotto being weight drained. barerra was p4p #3 universally and was on a long winning streak before and after manny faced him the first time. Hatton when floyd faced him was really coming off a loss to collazo at welter weight while pacquiao faced him when he was winning and at his normal weight where he's undefeated.

        To say castillo corrales floyd win is better than pacquiao mab 1 win along with the rest of your posts just reeks of flowmosexual behavior.

        You need to go to a clinic and get that checked out.
        Well he did move up to LMW at the very next fight and complained that he couldn't make 147 comfortably, let alone 145. So I'm pretty sure i'm safe on that one. but take it as you want to take it.

        Lol at your Hatton dig. He was quite clearly in much better shape vs Floyd than he was against Pacquaio. He said it himself, but who's he to explain it to us? It's only him it revolves around he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

        Originally posted by HeroBando
        GTFO with weight drained Cotto. He ran like the wind from the midget for 6 rounds, you can't do that drained.

        And GTFO with very war torn Barrera, he was #3 p4p. Now MAB 2 is a blip on Pac's resume, and probably JMM's #2 scalp.
        He was coming toward's the end of his career, let me put it that way. And he was coming off that war with Morales and wasn't really the same again. Don't forget this man started his career in the late 80's.

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        • B Phontain
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          #64
          Floyd, The retirement and layoffs hurt.....but the fact that he keeps fighting the 1, 2, 3 guys in his division shouldnt be lost. When two guys are this close, i give the advantage to the guy who is doing the most for me now. Beating the 1, 2, 3 guys who are coming off the best wins and sometimes the best performances of their careers carries more weight than beating guys 5, 9, 12 etc, who sometimes came off the worst beatings or losses of their careers. We love to go bacc and rewrite history and say this guy or that guy was a better choice, but i dont think anybody who is really looking at the last few years can say that mayweather isnt doing what a great fighter is supposed to do:

          beat the best in your division, not a fighter who just got his ass whooped because its a good name. But the guys who fought the fights of their lives to become the #1 contenders

          Fight the young guys. Everybody wants to carry the torch, and as a fighter nearing your end you should give them the chance if they EARN it.

          unifying titles. Become the MAN at the weight your fighting at. Mayweather is trying to do it at 2 different weights at 36 with few fights left, (albeit, a cw which im not too fond of)

          it gets silly hearing this prime hof talk, how many boxers do you know are hof before you fight them and are prime at the time? Honestly, there's a very good chance that Coralles, Castillo, and Hatton will make it in which will be 3, and two of them were undefeated when May faced them.

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          • HeroBando
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            #65
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Well he did move up to LMW at the very next fight and complained that he couldn't make 147 comfortably, let alone 145. So I'm pretty sure i'm safe on that one. but take it as you want to take it.


            He was coming toward's the end of his career, let me put it that way. And he was coming off that war with Morales and wasn't really the same again. Don't forget this man started his career in the late 80's.
            He moved up cause there was nothing for him at 147, he was at best gonna be #3. He's also into these divisional belts, witness him looking for MW title fights at a CW. Plus at the time he said the weight was fine, it was only years later when he was in full on excuse making mode. Remember storming out of the ring after Floyd etc

            Sure thing, #3 p4p, 1.5 years removed from the Hamed exposure. Then 3.5 years later has a life and death battle with prime Marquez

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            • R-NEAL
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              #66
              Originally posted by PAC-BOY
              Both are legit champs @ 154 why a CW? I can see if one was a 154 and was 147 or 140 or other and to make the fight happen they would have to meet somewhere. But if both are Champs at 154 and Floyd beat a legit 154 with NO CW...then why should it be at a CW. Makes no ***ing sense. :AYWOoD:
              Lol, so you think Pac and Margo fighting at a catchweight for a vacant 154 lb title makes more sense???

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              • haverespect
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                #67
                I would say no, simply because he got knocked out cold by the guy Floyd dominated, I like lil Pac but think that will stick in alot of peoples minds I'm afraid

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                • Kagami Taiga
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                  #68
                  Floyd has inched ahead as of late. That much is clear. A win over Canelo would be the biggest thing either of them have done in a while. And if he goes on to fight the winner between Garcia/mathysse then that will pretty much seal it IMO, PAC really don't have many great opponents to look forward to. Top rank has no presence from 140-154

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                  • nathan_nall
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                    #69
                    I get the feeling that 20 or 30 years from now, Floyd will be considered the greater talent with the greater legacy.

                    However... when people discuss who didn't make the fight between them... that will also be attributed to Floyd.

                    Much like people criticize RJJ today, they'll say "Floyd was by far the best of his time.... BUT..... when it came to facing Pacquiao, he wanted no part of it".

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by R-NEAL
                      Lol, so you think Pac and Margo fighting at a catchweight for a vacant 154 lb title makes more sense???
                      No, Pac is a paper champ in his 8th division. But he was nice to admit it right after the fight and free up that belt that's too big for him. Meanwhile Floyd feels like a paper champ in his 5th division, but won't admit it for a year+. Maybe he thought he'd fight another blown up, past prime guy, so 154 sounded ok?

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