What did Margarito do better than Guerrero?

[bojangles1987]

[B-Bomber]

Margarito would have been a very tough fight for Floyd, anyone who can walk through his punches and pressure him non-stop for 12 hard rounds will cause him problems. There's a big difference between Margarito (5'11, 165 pounds, heavy handed, granite chin) and Gatti (5'7, 150 pounds), Baldomir (5'7, 160 pounds, pillow handed), Guerrero (5'8, 150 pounds)... Margarito never gassed and his relentless pressure, size (heavy, tall, long arms), and high output would have probably given Floyd his most physically demanding fight. There's a good reason why Floyd didn't want this fight.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

No doubt, Margarito is tall and big, has a longer reach than Mayweather, hits harder than Baldomir and is more resilient than Ortiz.
But if I think of how Margarito fought, I really can't see him win against Mayweather.

First off, he's always been rather predictable, not exactly fleet footed and his defense is below average at best. He struggled against mobile, faster fighters. And Floyd is not only faster of hand and foot, but also a much better boxer.

Let's dismiss the Pacquiao fight, how about Mosley? (a 4-1 underdog at the time).
Margarito struggled with Mosley's speed when they traded, got outboxed when Mosley decided to box (the 2nd round for instance), got outsmarted (in the 3rd) allowing Mosley to steal the round. In the 6th and 7th Margarito decided to let his hands go, showing great heart, yet most of his punches were dodged or blocked and he got countered with hard shots.

In my opinion Mayweather would win by decision rather easily, pot shotting Margarito as he comes in, countering when forced to trade, clinching, spoiling (running if you will) and stealing rounds when the need arises.

[rogdogx]

But both don't apply relentless pressure only Margo does he can take just about anything you throw and keep walking you down. He has heavy hands and underrated defense an can cut off the ring well. Guerrero has good skills and boxing technique but Margo is on a whole mother level with his style. I think Margo stops the ghost in about 6-8 rounds another thing Margo does better then the ghost is body punching too.

well you pretty much sumed it up right there. i couldn't have said it better myself

[Pacquiao'd]

Margarito would have been a very tough fight for Floyd, anyone who can walk through his punches and pressure him non-stop for 12 hard rounds will cause him problems. There's a big difference between Margarito (5'11, 165 pounds, heavy handed, granite chin) and Gatti (5'7, 150 pounds), Baldomir (5'7, 160 pounds, pillow handed), Guerrero (5'8, 150 pounds)... Margarito never gassed and his relentless pressure, size (heavy, tall, long arms), and high output would have probably given Floyd his most physically demanding fight. There's a good reason why Floyd didn't want this fight.

Floyd wanted the fight conditionally which arum then refused, don't rewrite history

[Pacquiao'd]

I only debate with people that are on my level, everyone else I teach. You getting a red k

Funny post. Really funny.

[New England]

margarito had the best chin i've ever seen.

[rogdogx]

We'll have to agree to disagree.

No doubt, Margarito is tall and big, has a longer reach than Mayweather, hits harder than Baldomir and is more resilient than Ortiz.
But if I think of how Margarito fought, I really can't see him win against Mayweather.

First off, he's always been rather predictable, not exactly fleet footed and his defense is below average at best. He struggled against mobile, faster fighters. And Floyd is not only faster of hand and foot, but also a much better boxer.

Let's dismiss the Pacquiao fight, how about Mosley? (a 4-1 underdog at the time).
Margarito struggled with Mosley's speed when they traded, got outboxed when Mosley decided to box (the 2nd round for instance), got outsmarted (in the 3rd) allowing Mosley to steal the round. In the 6th and 7th Margarito decided to let his hands go, showing great heart, yet most of his punches were dodged or blocked and he got countered with hard shots.

In my opinion Mayweather would win by decision rather easily, pot shotting Margarito as he comes in, countering when forced to trade, clinching, spoiling (running if you will) and stealing rounds when the need arises.

everybody pretty much knows margaritos only chance against floyd would be to wear him down and stop him late. mayweather usually becomes dominant late and he's usually not in competitive fights down the stretch. i would favor floyd to outbox him and not fade down the stretch vs any version of margarito though. but i will say a prime margarito would have made for a compelling second half of the fight atleast. guerrero doesn't sell out to get inside the way a margarito does. thats why people say margarito's pressure is truly relentless. he completely was dominated after the first 2 rounds and i didn't get the sense mayweather was ever in any sort of danger. you could throw the kitchen sink at margarito and he always kept coming. the only fight he ever ran in was against Roberto Garcia and that's cuz that guy can crack.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

margarito had the best chin i've ever seen.

Chavez Sr was the best I have ever seen. He also never swelled, cut or even bruised.

I remember when Frankie Randall knocked him down, it was a shocker. I had never seen Chavez take a step back, let a lone get knocked down.

[New England]

Chavez Sr was the best I have ever seen. He also never swelled, cut or even bruised.

I remember when Frankie Randall knocked him down, it was a shocker. I had never seen Chavez take a step back, let a lone get knocked down.

keep in mind that you are 15 years older than i am, rofl.

when chavez was in his prime i was a child.


he also saw punches very well for a guy who came forward, did chavez. margarito didn't see shots until they bounced off his forehead.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

keep in mind that you are 15 years older than i am, rofl.

when chavez was in his prime i was a child.


he also saw punches very well for a guy who came forward, did chavez. margarito didn't see shots until they bounced off his forehead.

15 years..... damn bro give me some slack. Are you that young?

It's true what you said though, Chavez had great head movement. Marg actually wasn't that bad with his catches and parries but he was fearless in the way he came forward.