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  • New England
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    #51



    the chavez fight, for anybody who hasn't seen it.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #52
      Originally posted by New England
      so jesus chavez is a bigger puncher than manny pacquiao?
      Where do I state that?

      Did you miss where I said "Not that he hits harder than them (Pacquaio, Barrera) he doesn't" ?

      What I have stated is, Chavez is a hard puncher. That is what I said and that is a fact. Chavez can clearly punch hard and clearly packs a punch.

      Anyone who has Erik Morales clutching for their life with a single punch can punch hard.

      List every single fighter that ever even stunned ANY version of Morales and tell me what they have in common.

      You say you know Jesus Chavez personally. Why don't you ask him if he thinks he can punch hard and I can bet big money what the answer will be.
      Last edited by IronDanHamza; 09-02-2013, 04:53 PM.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #53
        Originally posted by PAC-BOY
        Cotto...****** at 154 had less power. and has been on the decline.
        Ortiz...He sucker punched him to win.
        Mosley old and past his prime.
        JMM was a blown up SFW lmfao...went up 3 divisions
        Hatton was slow and no good at 147. Couldnt even beat Collazo lol

        those are the Facts you over looked. Yes he faced guys that could pull the trigger, but not into their advantage.
        That doesn't even make sense.

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        • PAC-BOY
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          #54
          Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
          It's between Corrales and Ortiz
          Ortiz...a 60% KO ratio...thats a heavy puncher to you?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            That doesn't even make sense.
            why not ?

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            • New England
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              #56
              Originally posted by New England
              barrera and pacquiao couldn't hurt morales?

              and on the bold, i really don't know what that's got to do with anything, regardless of whether i agree with it.

              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              They couldn't have him clutching for his life with a single punch, no.

              Not that version of Morales anyway.


              When either of them hurt Morales is was with accumalation and later in the fight. Chavez hit him with a single punch and if the ropes weren't there he'd have gone down.

              Not that he hits harder than them, he doesn't. But, he absolutely hits hard and it's so obvious and clear to see. Yet, that's a funny statment somehow That Chavez can punch.

              You're telling me that a guy who can badly hurt Morales with a single punch isn't a hard puncher? Chop Chop Corley punches harder than that person?

              What do you think it has to do with? Corley in his prime doesn't have the power to have Morales out on his feet now, today's version at 140 lbs.
              Originally posted by New England
              so jesus chavez is a bigger puncher than manny pacquiao?
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Where do I state that?

              Did you miss where I said "Not that he hits harder than them (Pacquaio, Barrera) he's doesn't" ?

              What I have stated is, Chavez is a hard puncher. That is what I said and that is a fact. Chavez can clearly punch hard and clearly packs a punch.

              Anyone who has Erik Morales clutching for their life with a single punch can punch hard.

              List every single fighter that ever even stunned ANY version of Morales and tell me what they have in common.

              You say you know Jesus Chavez personally. Why don't you ask him if he thinks he can punch hard and I can bet big money what the answer will be.
              i don't know chavez personally. i've spoken with him several times on the telephone. i'd be shocked if his number hasn't changed since then. and no, he didn't describe himself as some massive puncher. you're overstating the damage he did in the morales fight if you think he was that badly hurt.


              and the bold appeared to me as though you were stating that barrerra and pacquaio couldn't hurt erik morales.

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                #57
                Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                why not ?
                Why would his power decrease from not cutting weight? sure its not going to have the impact it does at 147 on real 154lbers but Floyd is a WW just like Cotto.

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                • Mr. Philadel
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                  #58
                  so which WW or JWW was the hardest puncher Nelo has faced?!?....pause!!...Trout got like 14 ko's in 26 wins but he's not a puncher......something is telling me that Nelo might have chin issues and it wouldn't surprise me if Floyd dropped him a couple of times......I swear I have a funny feeling Nelo gets floored by Floyd.....maybe not stopped but definitely dropped

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by New England
                    i don't know chavez personally. i've spoken with him several times on the telephone. i'd be shocked if his number hasn't changed since then. and no, he didn't describe himself as some massive puncher. you're overstating the damage he did in the morales fight if you think he was that badly hurt.


                    and the bold appeared to me as though you were stating that barrerra and pacquaio couldn't hurt erik morales.
                    Where have I said Chavez is a massive puncher?

                    Why do you keep putting words in my mouth?

                    This is what I said;

                    "Don't forget that Castillo, Corrales and Chavez are also hard punchers"

                    You find that funny and unbelievable that I consider Chavez a hard puncher. You've also translated that into me saying Chavez is a massive puncher who punches harder than Pacquaio and Barrera despite me never saying either.

                    What I said, was Chavez did something that Pacquaio and Barrera couldn't do, and that's badly hurt Morales (That version) with a single punch. I also in the very next sentance clarified that I don't consider Chavez to be a harder puncher than either of those two (Pacquaio and Barrera) just merely that he did something they couldn't.

                    No where have I stated that Pacquaio and Barrera couldn't hurt Morales either. I said, again, that he did something "They couldn't do" and that is have him trying to hold on for dear life due to the fact he was not going to stay on his feet much longer.

                    Again, to clarify, that doesn't make him a harder puncher than them.

                    What it does mean, is Chavez clearly packs a punch.

                    I'm not overstating it at all. Morales held onto the ropes to stay on his feet from a single punch. If the ropes weren't there he'd have gone down from a single punch. Who did that to that version of Morales? And after that he was in a state where he was doing nothing but trying to survive and hold. Who did that to that version of Morales?

                    Yet, the idea of that person being a hard puncher is laughable. Oh, and Chop Chop Corley punches harder than that person

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                      #60
                      It'll be Canelo.

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