Comments Thread For: Matthysse: Angel Garcia is Worried, He Can't Help Danny

[bojangles1987]

Judah was 2 and 1 going into the fight with Garcia. He only lost to Amir Khan before losing to Garcia so the bold is nonsense. Sure the Peterson win was a solid win for him but the fight that separates them both is Judah. Like it or not because one guy lost and the other guy won. That's a fighter they share in common. I'm not going to say Matthysse is over Garcia at 140 when Matthysse lost against a guy Garcia beat who they both fought. Again, your opinion is your opinion but we just don't share the same one.

FFS.

You are stretching so bad to make your case. It's absolutely ridiculous. You're deliberately ignoring a 3 year stretch of fights and hanging yourself up on a controversial fight most think Matthysse won just to avoid giving him the credit he has earned.

[The Taker]

Dude acting like I'm new on here. I have been serving posters since 2008.

Well, maybe he knows better not to doubt you again my friend.

[GRUSTLER]

FFS.

You are stretching so bad to make your case. It's absolutely ridiculous. You're deliberately ignoring a 3 year stretch of fights and hanging yourself up on a controversial fight most think Matthysse won just to avoid giving him the credit he has earned.

No.... You are the one trying to not give Garcia credit for the Judah win but credit to Matthysse for losing. Judah was 2 for 1 going into the fight with Garcia and that's the truth. How is that stretching it? Why should I give him credit for losing? The fight with Judah was actually closer than his fans think. I watched it. Alexander is another story. I have been giving Matthysse his props but since I'm not totally throwing praise his way then I'm not giving him credit at all. Fact is, Matthysse fans don't give ANY credit to Garcia mostly because they don't like his pops. That's lame.

[JDezi4]

Listen man, I read your posts often about Matthysse and Garcia and you have not had one good thing to say about Garcia AT ALL and when someone gives Garcia props you go on about all this other nonsense. I always said that Matthysse is a tough fighter but I just don't think he is better than Garcia. Doesn't make it so for everyone but it does for me. Garcia is more proven at 140. The only fights people remember of Matthysse at 140 really is the ones he lost (Judah/Alexander) and while some consider one or even both robberies, he lost them.

Do I have to have something good to say about Garcia? No I don't... I'm not one of those people saying Garcia has no chance, or that Garcia gets stopped early and easily... That's about as good as it gets cause he's not the guy I'm pulling for... You guys are doing a great job complimenting him, why do u expect me to?

And I only argue when I have something to say, if someone states a fact about Garcia I can't argue with, I don't reply... What do you want me to say "Oh, you are so right, Garcia is good at blah blah blah.... Here's some green K..." No, I don't have time to acknowledge people that aren't wrong... U scarcely see me acknowledging any Matthysse fans when they're right like FerFalsStepBitch do you? (No you don't)

And if the only fight people remembered of Matthysse were those 2, he wouldn't be the favorite... If so, that would be as much a compliment to Matthysse as it is an insult to Garcia cause how can 2 losses make him the favorite over an undefeated fighter? Seems to me that Garcia fans are the only ones still acknowledging those 2 fights that happened 2 years ago... Need I bring up Theopane, or his SD with Holt? Or the fact he went the distance the first time with Morales, getting hurt in that fight as well?

He had both hurt and couldn't finish them and all that says to me is that he is not as efficient of a finisher as most think. Garica has been more impressive. Peterson win was a solid one. See, I can give the man credit but Garcia gets none from Matthysse fans. You say Matthysse has boxing skills but he could not cut Judah off in the ring. Garcia beat Judah. Matthysse did not facts. Khan was a top fighter at 140 but Matthysse fans won't give him credit for it because they say Khan has a glass chin but Khan was winning up until that point.

This whole paragraph just annoys me... You have separated the points, they're are all different points in one single paragraph... Anyway here it is, sentence by sentence

He didn't hurt either Judah or Alexander, he knocked them down, not the same thing. Garcia on the other hand, did hurt Judah clearly, and still couldn't finish him... So how's that any more impressive?

See above

Like I said, he boxed with Judah to a stand still for the first 9 rounds... In the 10th he knocked Judah down and beat him around the ring CLEARLY CUTTING IT OFF IN THE PROCESS... Simply put, you're wrong

As I said, its fortunate for Garcia fans the judges gave that razor thin fight to the hometown fighter cuz you wouldn't have any other argument... You'd probably have to just cling to the Khan victory or something

And speak of the Devil... Khan does have glass jaw, its common knowledge and always was... And Khan was out boxing the crap out of Garcia up to that point, nobody can refute this... He literally won that fight with 1 punch... That's not the sign of a world beater when ur opponent has a glass jaw... R u gonna tell me Barkley is better than Hearns?

People even think he was robbed in the Peterson fight (I don't) but you get where I'm going? How can Matthysse get all these accolades but Garcia don't? Matthysse is there to be hit at will. All it will take is a boxer/fighter who doesn't fold under pressure and can give as good as he gets and I feel Garcia is that guy. If Matthysse wins then I will eat my words and give you props for the call but until then.... lets agree to disagree. Oh and by the way.... the poster agreeing with me makes more sense then a lot of other posters on here. Look at guys like Junior Gong and Pistol Whip? Those are trolls.

Honestly, in that first sentence I don't get where ur going...

Cause there's a down side to all of Garcia's victories... Morales is shot, and a former featherweight... Khan has a glass jaw and was kicking his ass... He couldn't stop Judah after hurting him for 9 rounds, and got hurt late losing the championship rounds... Those are all facts

Matthysse has fought faster handed fighters than Garcia, and although he's not defensive wizard, he's not there to get hit at will... Again, you're simply wrong

Ok, well there you go... We'll see

And, I never said Matthysse didn't have troll fans, I'm just not one of them... But that guy is without question one of Garcia's

[JDezi4]

I'm talking about how highly you rate Matthysse fights and how you downplay Garcia's. For instance. Both fought Zab but yet you'll give Matthysse more props for losing than Garcia for actually winning.

That's not what u were talking about, cause my reply wouldn't make sense if it was... And it makes perfect sense

[JoeKidd]

From the interviews, I do gather that they both seem worried, trying too hard to downplay Matthysse. Matthysse on the other hand looks dead focussed. It all boils down to whether Garcia can take some shots...because he will have to!

[JDezi4]

Championship rounds? You're funny! Matthysse lost the fight. So you are telling me that you are bragging about a guy (Matthysse) who beat Judah around the ring but couldn't finish him or WIN THE FIGHT? Garica and Matthysse didn't finish him but Garcia beat him. Even knocked Judah down just like Matthysse did EARLIER at that. What are you saying bruh?

I thought it was obvious... I suppose I'll slow it down a bit

Garcia hurt Judah in round, 4 or 6 something around there... He would have about 8-6 respective rounds left to stop Judah if he had what it takes

Matthysse knocked Judah down in round 10... I guess, after clearly preparing to box Judah to a decision (respecting the step up in competition he was making)... It took him 10 to realize Judah was no match for him, so he threw the boxing out the window and beat Judah around the ring from that point on... Bare in mind, that's only about 21/2 rounds...

So Matthysse failed to stop Judah in 21/2 rounds after turning up the heat in a fight that took place 2 years ago, giving him 2 whole years to improve, which evidence shows he has...

Garcia couldn't stop Judah in (I'll just say) 6 rounds after hurting Judah, and even lost 3 of those last 6 rounds... This was his last fight

I don't get how this is that hard

And what was so funny about "Championship rounds"... What was ur point?

The above sounds ******. You proved my point. Sure he could have started earlier but he didn't and lost. You're trying to give Matthysse props for a fight "He could have" started earlier in and KO Judah? Talking about reaching. On top of this! You have the nerve to "ASS/U/ME" and think this is cool when trying to debate on a forum?

And you have a problem catching when "props" are being giving... I'm making an educated guess using facts, nothing about that is giving props...

FACT, its a safe assumption that if Matthysse started earlier, he would have stopped Judah. This is why Matthysse will no doubt be the favorite in a rematch (how often is the loser of a fight the favorite in a rematch?) Nothing about this can be argued (at least not by someone like you)... You're just crying that I brought it up "but, he didn't so why does it matter"...

FACT, I have no reason to believe Garcia beats Judah any better in a rematch than he did in this fight... Chances are Judah will box more defensively in a rematch... Garcia will have to chase him around the ring, and I highly doubt amount of success... A guess, but a guess with merit

It says loads about the Judah loss that you fanboys cling to as if Judah outboxed him in a one-sided easy decision, and it compares marvelously with Garcia's performance against Judah... How he was able to hurt Judah early, but couldn't do a thing with him late... Oppose to Matthysse who couldn't fully dominate him early, but was also not getting dominated early, while being able to DOMINATE HIM LATE... 2 years ago...

You'll understand when ur a parent... You're child will be walking across the street, you'll yell at him about crossing the street saying "You could've gotten hit by a car"

To which he'll reply "But I didn't"

What will you say?

[JoeKidd]

Matthysse is vastly improved since the Judah fight...otherwise, it would be a cakewalk for Garcia.

[mathed]

No.... You are the one trying to not give Garcia credit for the Judah win but credit to Matthysse for losing. Judah was 2 for 1 going into the fight with Garcia and that's the truth. How is that stretching it? Why should I give him credit for losing? The fight with Judah was actually closer than his fans think. I watched it. Alexander is another story. I have been giving Matthysse his props but since I'm not totally throwing praise his way then I'm not giving him credit at all. Fact is, Matthysse fans don't give ANY credit to Garcia mostly because they don't like his pops. That's lame.

Haha, it's the NSB way man, that's all it really is. You aren't cool if you give both guys props, there can only be one. I talk about Garcia like he is a virtual trashbag most of the time but I don't really think he is garbage....just playing along with the NSB standard, lol.

Personally, I think Danny is a pretty good boxer, good speed and timing. That being said, I do feel he is actually in for a bad night against Matthysse based on some tendencies I've seen in recent fights. He'll be able to catch Lucas as well, sure but I think on the inside is where he is going to suffer.

He is good at countering but he needs to have a little space to be effective and Matthysse is deceptively good on the inside. If Danny can stay off the ropes, he will fare better but if Lucas shows that he can trap Danny early on.....I dunno man, I don't see this fight going long at all.

[JoeKidd]

He is good at countering but he needs to have a little space to be effective.

Goes for both guys. It's a myth that Matthysse is an inside fighter like Rios.