Comments Thread For: Matthysse: Angel Garcia is Worried, He Can't Help Danny

[bojangles1987]

No but I don't go around and act like Garcia is a God or something. Fact is... Matthysse didn't beat Judah and Garcia did but STILL Matthysse's fans give more credit to Matthysse for losing against Judah then they do to Garcia for winning. The logic is not rational. Majority of the posters on here just don't like certain fighters and that makes them post the things that they do. I know for a fact that the reason why most don't like Garcia is because of his father. Totally feminine reason to crap on a boxer when Garcia is more proven at 140 than Matthysse BUT posters will discredit the guys Garcia beat and boost up the ones Matthysse fought? It's crazy how much flip flopping goes on in here.

It's not acting like Matthysse is a god to predict he's going to beat Garcia's ass. And Garcia is not more proven than Matthysse at 140. Beating Judah doesn't make it so, and ignoring Matthysse getting robbed against Alexander doesn't make it so either.

You've responded to me before that, "it's Matthysse's fault for not finishing Alexander," but don't hold Garcia to that same standard.

[junior gong]

And *******s label a guy a bum when Floyd fights them and an ATG two years later when Pac fights him.

That didnt answer the question though, wasnt even relevant. I wanted to try and understand the irrational floydiot bashing of Lucas Matthysse and whats behind it. Can you explain it?

[GRUSTLER]

Lol, the fact remains, Judah was there to be stopped that night... If Garcia had what it takes to stop him, he would be stopped... Couldn't do it... There will be no better opportunity until Judah's as withered as Morales I guess

Whether or not Matthysse would have stopped Judah if he'd have started earlier is up for debate (this is a fact), and judging by what's been happening to his other opponents since, the evidence is in its favor... Simple logic, really

FACT: 2 years to learn a lesson, and has looked great ever since
FACT: Last fight... No time to prove to anyone he's gotten any better... After his impressive wins against a glass jawed fighter and an old Jr. Featherweight, he fails to stop and even gets stunned by another old man that just so happens to be a natural 140lber... All the ingredients of a world beater

Matthysse couldn't and lost. Are you not getting this?

[GRUSTLER]

Judah had something to prove against Garcia and was amped up to make mistakes <--- A just a very educated guess that has evidence to back it up (see Khan fight)

Matthysse barely knocked Judah down with a straight right to the eyes socket, he didn't actually hurt him with a shot to the jaw or temple... This put Judah in run-mode, and Matthysse beat him around the ring for the next 2 rounds
Garcia was landing on his jaw the whole fight, including the knockdown... Couldn't finish him... Judah even survived long enough to beat Garcia around the ring for the last 3 rounds... Nothing about that is fantasy... Those are factsIts not like I'm saying "Judah beat Matthysse, Garcia beat Judah, if Alexander can beat Matthysse, Garcia can"

Or "Garcia will hurt Matthysse and will hurt him with a left hook"

Or after watching/reading one of his interviews "Uh-oh, Matthysse is too confident" from half of you "Uh-oh, Matthysse is scared" from the other half

Yeah... I see you guys are the epitome of logic and equality

Garcia beat Judah though and Matthysse didn't.... FACT.

[GRUSTLER]

It's not acting like Matthysse is a god to predict he's going to beat Garcia's ass. And Garcia is not more proven than Matthysse at 140. Beating Judah doesn't make it so, and ignoring Matthysse getting robbed against Alexander doesn't make it so either.

You've responded to me before that, "it's Matthysse's fault for not finishing Alexander," but don't hold Garcia to that same standard.

Matthysse didn't beat Judah. Garcia beat Khan who was in the top tier at 140. Matthysse has yet to do so. Peterson win was good for him but the other fights were not. Garcia beat Judah. He didn't finish him but he beat him Decisively. Something Matthysse didn't do. Robbery or no robbery Judah is an L on his record. So Matthysse making Judah run around the ring don't mean squat because he lost. Garcia drop Judah just like Matthysse did but Garcia got the win.

[FerFal'sStepDad]

Matthysse couldn't and lost. Are you not getting this?

Bro, in his mind it was a CHOICE Lucas mad to NOT KO Zab.

In his mind..."Zab was there to be "taken" by Garcia.

He must not have seen the press conference and all the bad blood between Garcia and Zab... Yea, he REALLY believes Zab came to be "taken" by Garcia.

Dude tells me he is a fan, but lacks the ability to see reality. What good is being a fan if ALL you see is what you WANT to see.


Boxing is a sport for some and for others it is a way to feel better about who they are on this earth. This is why they will lie to themselves and say shet like, "Lucas just wasn't in the mood to beat Zab.." ~

[GRUSTLER]

Bro, in his mind it was a CHOICE Lucas mad to NOT KO Zab.

In his mind..."Zab was there to be "taken" by Garcia.

He must not have seen the press conference and all the bad blood between Garcia and Zab... Yea, he REALLY believes Zab came to be "taken" by Garcia.

Dude tells me he is a fan, but lacks the ability to see reality. What good is being a fan if ALL you see is what you WANT to see.


Boxing is a sport for some and for others it is a way to feel better about who they are on this earth. This is why they will lie to themselves and say shet like, "Lucas just wasn't in the mood to beat Zab.." ~

Sometimes I really cannot believe how most of these guys will bash a poster for telling the true and stating facts? They just try to push their opinions about how they see situations go down. They don't even be right and exact. Fact of the matter is that, the only reason they are riding Matthysse so hard is that he has a big punch and entertains them by knocking out fighters. It takes too much brain power for them to actually look at a fighter and see the qualities they have other than being a big puncher. To me the fight is equal in terms of who can win because Matthysse has a big punching chance but my money is on Garcia. He just seems to be the more polished of the two. What I learned from big punchers is once you take their power away, it is hard for them to get the W.

[FerFal'sStepDad]

Sometimes I really cannot believe how most of these guys will bash a poster for telling the true and stating facts? They just try to push their opinions about how they see situations go down. They don't even be right and exact. Fact of the matter is that, the only reason they are riding Matthysse so hard is that he has a big punch and entertains them by knocking out fighters. It takes too much brain power for them to actually look at a fighter and see the qualities they have other than being a big puncher. To me the fight is equal in terms of who can win because Matthysse has a big punching chance but my money is on Garcia. He just seems to be the more polished of the two. What I learned from big punchers is once you take their power away, it is hard for them to get the W.

Totally. For him it's all about being in love with the Peterson KO and being selective as to who he gives credit to.

On one hand they will bash Garcia for giving Morales what he really wanted, to be KTFO in a rematch. They claim Morales is shot, but praise Maidana who went tooth and nail with "shot" Morales. The bias is out of this world. The thing with biased people, is they can never see their own bias. You make a lot of sense as usual.

[JDezi4]

Sometimes I really cannot believe how most of these guys will bash a poster for telling the true and stating facts? They just try to push their opinions about how they see situations go down. They don't even be right and exact. Fact of the matter is that, the only reason they are riding Matthysse so hard is that he has a big punch and entertains them by knocking out fighters.

Oh the irony... What reason do u have to believe I personally only like Matthysse becuz of his power? And yet, its a fact?

It takes too much brain power for them to actually look at a fighter and see the qualities they have other than being a big puncher. To me the fight is equal in terms of who can win because Matthysse has a big punching chance but my money is on Garcia. He just seems to be the more polished of the two. What I learned from big punchers is once you take their power away, it is hard for them to get the W.

U do realize the only person agreeing with u here is the forum's currently designated troll... Everything from his name, his start date (obvious ALT), to his generic "they just don't get it" responses to made up topics and observations... I mean the guy put quotation marks over a sentence I never even said...

Second of all (WARNING: Actual boxing discussion about to commence), if you understood craft you'd see Matthysse is much more than just a big puncher... More irony I guess... Watch the first round of the Peterson fight... Or drop the bias for a second and watch the Judah/Alexander fights... The fact that he was boxing with 2 polished defensive boxers with speed and footwork and fought them to AT WORST a stand still... What does that tell you?

[JDezi4]

Matthysse couldn't and lost. Are you not getting this?

Garcia beat Judah though and Matthysse didn't.... FACT.

Its such an unfortunate thing that the judges decided to give the decision to the hometown guy on those nights, cuz resulted in some embarrassing arguments

All you Garcia fans do is hide behind those 2 losses on his record... As much as you don't want to admit it, fact is both fights could have (and most would argue SHOULD HAVE) gone the other way... And that was 2 years ago... If the fights were exactly the same, but the decisions went the other way, what would be your argument to prove Garcia's superiority?

There's nothing wrong with assuming that Matthysse could have stopped Judah if he started earlier becuz there is evidence to support this... He's been starting earlier in all his fights since and he knocked every one of his opponents out as a result... In their fight, he boxed Judah to a stand still the first 9 rounds, then beat Judah around the ring the second half, knocking him down in the process... You really can't imagine that if he started aggressively beating him around the ring from round 1 its completely unfathomable he would have stopped him eventually

Again, Garcia... The big monstrous puncher that he is... Had a better opportunity to knock Judah out, but instead got hurt late and lost the championship rounds...

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