Comments Thread For: Matthysse: Angel Garcia is Worried, He Can't Help Danny

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Oh the irony... What reason do u have to believe I personally only like Matthysse becuz of his power? And yet, its a fact?



U do realize the only person agreeing with u here is the forum's currently designated troll... Everything from his name, his start date (obvious ALT), to his generic "they just don't get it" responses to made up topics and observations... I mean the guy put quotation marks over a sentence I never even said...

Second of all (WARNING: Actual boxing discussion about to commence), if you understood craft you'd see Matthysse is much more than just a big puncher... More irony I guess... Watch the first round of the Peterson fight... Or drop the bias for a second and watch the Judah/Alexander fights... The fact that he was boxing with 2 polished defensive boxers with speed and footwork and fought them to AT WORST a stand still... What does that tell you?

Listen man, I read your posts often about Matthysse and Garcia and you have not had one good thing to say about Garcia AT ALL and when someone gives Garcia props you go on about all this other nonsense. I always said that Matthysse is a tough fighter but I just don't think he is better than Garcia. Doesn't make it so for everyone but it does for me. Garcia is more proven at 140. The only fights people remember of Matthysse at 140 really is the ones he lost (Judah/Alexander) and while some consider one or even both robberies, he lost them.

He had both hurt and couldn't finish them and all that says to me is that he is not as efficient of a finisher as most think. Garica has been more impressive. Peterson win was a solid one. See, I can give the man credit but Garcia gets none from Matthysse fans. You say Matthysse has boxing skills but he could not cut Judah off in the ring. Garcia beat Judah. Matthysse did not facts. Khan was a top fighter at 140 but Matthysse fans won't give him credit for it because they say Khan has a glass chin but Khan was winning up until that point.

People even think he was robbed in the Peterson fight (I don't) but you get where I'm going? How can Matthysse get all these accolades but Garcia don't? Matthysse is there to be hit at will. All it will take is a boxer/fighter who dfoesn't fold under pressure and can give as good as he gets and I feel Garcia is that guy. If Matthysse wins then I will eat my words and give you props for the call but until then.... lets agree to disagree. Oh and by the way.... the poster agreeing with me makes more sense then a lot of other posters on here. Look at guys like Junior Gong and Pistol Whip? Those are trolls.

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Oh the irony... What reason do u have to believe I personally only like Matthysse becuz of his power? And yet, its a fact?

I'm talking about how highly you rate Matthysse fights and how you downplay Garcia's. For instance. Both fought Zab but yet you'll give Matthysse more props for losing than Garcia for actually winning.

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Its such an unfortunate thing that the judges decided to give the decision to the hometown guy on those nights, cuz resulted in some embarrassing arguments

All you Garcia fans do is hide behind those 2 losses on his record... As much as you don't want to admit it, fact is both fights could have (and most would argue SHOULD HAVE) gone the other way... And that was 2 years ago... If the fights were exactly the same, but the decisions went the other way, what would be your argument to prove Garcia's superiority?

There's nothing wrong with assuming that Matthysse could have stopped Judah if he started earlier becuz there is evidence to support this... He's been starting earlier in all his fights since and he knocked every one of his opponents out as a result... In their fight, he boxed Judah to a stand still the first 9 rounds, then beat Judah around the ring the second half, knocking him down in the process... You really can't imagine that if he started aggressively beating him around the ring from round 1 its completely unfathomable he would have stopped him eventually

Again, Garcia... The big monstrous puncher that he is... Had a better opportunity to knock Judah out, but instead got hurt late and lost the championship rounds...

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Can you argue this? Please argue this

Championship rounds? You're funny! Matthysse lost the fight. So you are telling me that you are bragging about a guy (Matthysse) who beat Judah around the ring but couldn't finish him or WIN THE FIGHT? Garica and Matthysse didn't finish him but Garcia beat him. Even knocked Judah down just like Matthysse did EARLIER at that. What are you saying bruh?

The above sounds ******. You proved my point. Sure he could have started earlier but he didn't and lost. You're trying to give Matthysse props for a fight "He could have" started earlier in and KO Judah? Talking about reaching. On top of this! You have the nerve to "ASS/U/ME" and think this is cool when trying to debate on a forum?

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I'm talking about how highly you rate Matthysse fights and how you downplay Garcia's. For instance. Both fought Zab but yet you'll give Matthysse more props for losing than Garcia for actually winning.

This is why I don't take that herb, JSFD26, seriously...

Even when I am not clowning him, I am still clowning him.

You make too much sense in your post for him. I see what you see about ALL of his posts and this is why I use psychology to torture his ass. He simply CANNOT give Garcia ANY credit.

Danny Garcia P4P #1 ATG GOAT

[FerFal'sStepDad]

Championship rounds? You're funny! Matthysse lost the fight. So you are telling me that you are bragging about a guy (Matthysse) who beat Judah around the ring but couldn't finish him? Garica and Matthysse didn't finish him but Garcia beat him. Even knocked Judah down just like Matthysse did EARLIER at that. What are you saying bruh?

The above sounds ******. You proved my point. Sure he could have started earlier but he didn't and lost. You're trying to give Matthysse props for a fight "He could have" started earlier in and KO Judah? Talking about reaching. On top of this! You have the nerve to "ASS/U/ME" and thinks this is cool when trying to debate on a forum?

Straight up owned...

Exposed that bootleg Ferdie Pacheco...

Damn.



"Assumed??"

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Matthysse didn't beat Judah. Garcia beat Khan who was in the top tier at 140. Matthysse has yet to do so. Peterson win was good for him but the other fights were not. Garcia beat Judah. He didn't finish him but he beat him Decisively. Something Matthysse didn't do. Robbery or no robbery Judah is an L on his record. So Matthysse making Judah run around the ring don't mean squat because he lost. Garcia drop Judah just like Matthysse did but Garcia got the win.

You just spent a paragraph responding to the Judah fight, when my post mentioned Judah once, as a positive for Garcia. Which is what you always do when talking about Matthysse, change the subject and hide behind official verdicts.

Peterson beat Khan, and Matthysse crushed him in three one-sided rounds. That's a better win than any Garcia has. You'll say it isn't, even though you were one of the many saying Peterson would win. He beat Alexander, a better fighter than any Garcia's ever fought. Matthysse's been around the top a lot longer than Garcia, who won two fake belts in the past year and a half or so against guys coming off losses. Then again, you've also said before that beating Morales was more impressive than beating Alexander, so you'll deny this as well, or hide behind the official verdict as you've done in the past.

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Straight up owned...

Exposed that bootleg Ferdie Pacheco...

Damn.



"Assumed??"

Dude acting like I'm new on here. I have been serving posters since 2008.

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You just spent a paragraph responding to the Judah fight, when my post mentioned Judah once, as a positive for Garcia. Which is what you always do when talking about Matthysse, change the subject and hide behind official verdicts.

Peterson beat Khan, and Matthysse crushed him in three one-sided rounds. That's a better win than any Garcia has. You'll say it isn't, even though you were one of the many saying Peterson would win. He beat Alexander, a better fighter than any Garcia's ever fought. Matthysse's been around the top a lot longer than Garcia, who won two fake belts in the past year and a half or so against guys coming off losses. Then again, you've also said before that beating Morales was more impressive than beating Alexander, so you'll deny this as well, or hide behind the official verdict as you've done in the past.

I did give Matthysse credit for the Peterson win. Try reading. Saying Peterson win is better than anything Garcia did at 140 sounds silly considering Matthysse didn't beat Judah and Garcia did.

[bojangles1987]

I did give Matthysse credit for the Peterson win. Try reading. Saying Peterson win is better than anything Garcia did at 140 sounds silly considering Matthysse didn't beat Judah but Garcia did?

Really? REALLY? You just said in the comment I quoted that Garcia beat Khan, who was in the top tier at 140, something Matthysse hasn't done. In other words, you're ignoring one official verdict, Peterson over Khan, and refusing to budge from another, Judah over Matthysse. I'd say crushing the guy who beat Khan is better than beating Khan.

Garcia beat Judah more convincingly, but he also beat him 3 years later, when Judah wasn't relevant. A decision over Judah in 2013 is not even remotely as good a win as knocking Peterson out in 3 in 2013. It's silly to argue othewise.

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Really? REALLY? You just said in the comment I quoted that Garcia beat Khan, who was in the top tier at 140, something Matthysse hasn't done. In other words, you're ignoring one official verdict, Peterson over Khan, and refusing to budge from another, Judah over Matthysse. I'd say crushing the guy who beat Khan is better than beating Khan.

Garcia beat Judah more convincingly, but he also beat him 3 years later, when Judah wasn't relevant. A decision over Judah in 2013 is not even remotely as good a win as knocking Peterson out in 3 in 2013. It's silly to argue othewise.

Judah was 2 and 1 going into the fight with Garcia. He only lost to Amir Khan before losing to Garcia so the bold is nonsense. Sure the Peterson win was a solid win for him but the fight that separates them both is Judah. Like it or not because one guy lost and the other guy won. That's a fighter they share in common. I'm not going to say Matthysse is over Garcia at 140 when Matthysse lost against a guy Garcia beat who they both fought. Again, your opinion is your opinion but we just don't share the same one.