Comments Thread For: PEDs: When The Lawsuits Come

[SplitSecond]

I must agree with the rest of the readers here. It is simply BS that Lampley or anyone else would right away accuse Marquez after landing a desperate punch. Manny obviously leaned right into that punch face first. It was perfect. Marquez tucked him in for the night.

Ya Marquez was yoked up but he didn't look much different to me than his last fight. No one said anything about PEDs until he reaped the benefits of strength training for that fight. How long has Manny avoided taking those tests with Mayweather. 2 years, claiming he was just superstitious against needles. I guess he got that tattoo through reverse osmosis. Does anyone here buy the excuses Manny gave us when Mayweather called him out on it. He was real pissed and began lawsuits over it because he was found out. His business was put out on Front Street. Now that he can't use the PEDs anymore, he is looking just a bit more normal in his recent fights.

My conclusion is if we can't accuse Manny, we can't accuse Marquez.

EVERYONE already thought marquez was roiding in the lead up to pac-marquez III

[DeadLikeMe]

EVERYONE already thought marquez was roiding in the lead up to pac-marquez III

No, they didn't. That is revisionist crap and you know it.

[Fetta]

EVERYONE already thought marquez was roiding in the lead up to pac-marquez III

I didnt hear a whole lot of that

[loui_ludwig]

The problem is JMM hired a conditioning coach who has a history with PED/roids. If u get somebody with a PED, background, su****ion and accusation will be there from the start.

Even if he is truly clean, Marquez is the one to blame for the accusation.



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[SplitSecond]

No, they didn't. That is revisionist crap and you know it.

I didnt hear a whole lot of that

well, it was there

why do you think roach was asking for extra testing?

heredia threatening to sue over the many allegations and for being exposed by conte:
http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-s...t-ariza--45617
nacho saying mexican fighters dont take ped's:
http://www.boxingscene.com/marquezs-...se-peds--45936
random thread:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=519677
random article:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...ail-for-boxing

only ones that dont want to believe it and are still denying it are suprise suprise, mayweathers fan girls

[oneon11]

Great article, one of the best I've read regarding the use of PED's. But the focus shouldn't have been on the punch Marquez damn near comatose Manny with. It should have focus on fighters who refuse to take the test without restrictions. Those fighters/any fighter who for any reason refuses any legitimate organization efforts to conduct a test for the presence of PED's should be banned for a minimum of 365 days after refusal. But it's no surprise to me that after a guy that showed all the evidence of using PED's was convincingly knock the hell out would a article such as this come out focusing on the fighter who landed that punch. Guess the first punch in the 3rd rd that was landed wasn't considered a knock down . But I still enjoyed reading the article regardless. .......

[oneon11]

You speak the truth.....

When Floyd first brought up the issue of stricter testing he was accused of using it as an excuse to duck a fight. People mocked him for being concerned about "health comes first."

Why didn't you care then, Hauser? Where was the article questioning why Manny walked away from the richest fight in history just because he didn't want to do stricter testing?

It seems like selective outrage to be worried now and to not have been worried back then.

Only after their hero was KO did people want to take Marquez to a lab and open him up. But nothing was written about the guy everyone in the business saw walk away from the biggest sum of money he would have ever made. Now as its been stated the downfall of not being able to use is showing people are trying to forget who should have proved people wrong by just taking the test.......

[Fetta]

well, it was there

why do you think roach was asking for extra testing?

heredia threatening to sue over the many allegations and for being exposed by conte:
http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-s...t-ariza--45617
nacho saying mexican fighters dont take ped's:
http://www.boxingscene.com/marquezs-...se-peds--45936
random thread:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=519677
random article:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...ail-for-boxing

only ones that dont want to believe it and are still denying it are suprise suprise, mayweathers fan girls

Who said i dont think JMM was juicing? I think Pac was juicing back when all this was considered cowardly and thats my argument. Why is this just being reported now, after Pac got KO'd and not when he was refusing testing and running through bigger guys? Why is this "respected" journalists taking shots at JMM if he tested clean by what SO MANY said was acceptable testing? But i wont expect anything logical from you cause you are a Pac cheerleader and to you hes clean and god sent

I have said since the start to TEST THEM ALL. I didnt jump on the wagon after the KO like so many of you

[potejam]

Marquez did indeed look quite a bit different physically than his last step up in weight against Mayweather. One of the confounding issues is that the science behind strength and conditioning training continues to evolve and progress, and some coaches are simply better at it than others. But it did raise a lot of questions. It's hard to imagine how he could be that much bigger and stronger so quickly. I wonder how the Marquez of fall 2012 would have fared against Mayweather? While Pacquiao's rapid weight gain raised some questions early on (though there really weren't a whole lot of serious doubters beyond the Mayweather camp) his continued condition at that weight seems to have borne out the defences. That said, a cynic would say that the end of Pacquiao's total dominance of his foes happened around the same time that he really faced a lot of questions about PED's. I personally pin that on the amount of punishment he took in beating Margarito (and others) – which was way more than was ever obvious at the time – and the fact that folks like Mosley quickly got on the bike when it was clear they were over their head. But who knows...

[MAKING_MONEY]

I became of a fan of marquez after he did that to paquiao but i aint gona lie. he on something