Rate Manny Pacquiao's last 5 Opponents, Including Rios?

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #111
    Just my 2 cents,, but shane has been shot since the floyd fight,, and cant be considered a top notch opponent for manny,,,
    maybe for cano or mundine now, but not for p4p guys,,,

    its like saying calzaghe beating jones was a great victory,,, just not reality

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    • Reloaded
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      #112
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      Shane was still a Ring top 5 welter, and the best available guy Pac hadn't trampled. You could argue Berto, that'd be funny.

      Look, Floyd was p4p #1 and fought Ortiz and Guerrero, who only deserved it on the basis of their ring ranking. I mean even an old Mosley is much better than these jokers, even now!
      Mosley was off 2 loses when Manny fought him , with Floyd Mosley came of 2 KO wins and Manny ducked this version of Mosley .

      Guerrero was mandatory and not beaten for 7 yrs .

      Ortiz was current WBC World Champion .

      You are so bias and twisted , Id much rather see Manny fight Guerrero or Ortiz than the punching bag Rios , and I would have liked to see Manny fight Shane when he was winning like Floyd did , not duck him until he was looking like sht and then big note he will be the first to KO Mosley , on the contrary Mosley made Manny look lost at sea .

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        #113
        Originally posted by DempseyRollin
        Lol dude, ur in denial. Shane was shot. He's was not and is not better than either of those guys IMO. And even with that said, the worst part is that Shane mosely had looked like absolute crap going into that fight. At least those fighters were coming off good wins.
        Guerrero looked worse vs Aydin than Mosley vs Mora. I had Mosley winning clear, most did. And even Mora would knock out Aydin with ease, it would be a joke. Mora is a career middle (with a good chin) that dropped down to 154 briefly and beat Forrest for the belt. He couldn't even make 154 for the Mosley fight, wasn't he heavy by a lot?

        I'm not gonna go all crazy, but I'm sure you know Mora is never a pretty fight for Mosley, even in his prime. Mosley was never that good at SWW, and Mora is much bigger with a good chin and awkward and slippery.

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        • GRboxing
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          #114
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          um, how about the thread about roy dodging the 6 biggest punchers of his era,,, you thought it was legit fights,,,, and thought roy fighting another champ in frankie liles was laughable,,, does that refresh your memory,,,,

          look dude,, me and you and battle back and forth all night long but in the end run, we agree on alot of stuff, and its a shame that you constantly hate on me on the most ****** of things,,,, I really dont have a problem with you at all, we may differ sometimes, but i dont understand why you stalk my posts

          I can see how you dont like my opinion on older fighters from the pre-60s days,, thats fine,, i can deal with that,, I have my opinion, just like you have yours,,, but we dont have to dog each other out on every thread,,, alot of the time we agree on stuff, we actually agree probably 85-90% of the time,,
          Your jmm thread is a great example,,, so basically i just want to end this petty feud between us, and lets get back to just talking boxing,, and not all this petty stuff trying to one-up each other,,,, We dont have to be best friends but we also dont have to be 2 douche bags always battling over little things,,,,
          Yes but Eubank or Liles aren't devastating punchers. I don't see it. Obviously it would've been good for Roy, but there as never a chance for a fight.

          Anyways mate, my bad for getting hostile. It's always, all good. I'm gonna make a fun one again soon and would love your input on resumes.....

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            #115
            Originally posted by GRboxing
            Yes but Eubank or Liles aren't devastating punchers. I don't see it. Obviously it would've been good for Roy, but there as never a chance for a fight.

            Anyways mate, my bad for getting hostile. It's always, all good. I'm gonna make a fun one again soon and would love your input on resumes.....
            Its cool,, and yes eubanks and liles arent big punchers,, i dont know why the tread was called biggest punchers,,, good fighters, but like you said,, not big punchers,,,

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              #116
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Mosley was off 2 loses when Manny fought him , with Floyd Mosley came of 2 KO wins and Manny ducked this version of Mosley .

              Guerrero was mandatory and not beaten for 7 yrs .

              Ortiz was current WBC World Champion .

              You are so bias and twisted , Id much rather see Manny fight Guerrero or Ortiz than the punching bag Rios , and I would have liked to see Manny fight Shane when he was winning like Floyd did , not duck him until he was looking like sht and then big note he will be the first to KO Mosley , on the contrary Mosley made Manny look lost at sea .
              Wrong on line 1. 1 loss to p4p Floyd, and a draw with a guy who couldn't make 154. Most everyone had him winning that

              You must have heard my favorite fact about Ortiz: He has never beaten a top 10 fighter at a regulation weight, in any division!!!

              This is amazing, there's nobody in the sport that's gotten that much traction out of a 0-1-3 record, CW excluded. Is it the perfume?

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                #117
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                Wrong on line 1. 1 loss to p4p Floyd, and a draw with a guy who couldn't make 154. Most everyone had him winning that

                You must have heard my favorite fact about Ortiz: He has never beaten a top 10 fighter at a regulation weight, in any division!!!

                This is amazing, there's nobody in the sport that's gotten that much traction out of a 0-1-3 record, CW excluded. Is it the perfume?
                Doesnt the berto win count as a top 10 guy,, berto did have a belt,, he was probably at least at 5-10 ranked guy

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  Doesnt the berto win count as a top 10 guy,, berto did have a belt,, he was probably at least at 5-10 ranked guy
                  That was his sole top 10 win, but that was at a 146 CW, imposed by Ortiz. It took a lot of wrangling to settle on this, he wanted lower:

                  http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...each-agreement

                  Berto, the WBC welterweight titleholder, and Ortiz have agreed to a catch weight of 145 pounds plus one, or in effect 146. That’s one pound below the welterweight limit.
                  So here's the thing: this maggot Reloaded spends 3 years ****ting on Pac for imposing 2 CWs in his 7th and 8th division after having beaten ATGs and HOFs at regulation weights. And at the same time he's boosting Teflon Vic who has never ever beaten a decent fighter except for 1 CW. I mean, it's comedy, but it only got better when Floyd asked for 152.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    That was his sole top 10 win, but that was at a 146 CW, imposed by Ortiz. It took a lot of wrangling to settle on this, he wanted lower:

                    http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...each-agreement



                    So here's the thing: this maggot Reloaded spends 3 years ****ting on Pac for imposing 2 CWs in his 7th and 8th division after having beaten ATGs and HOFs at regulation weights. And at the same time he's boosting Teflon Vic who has never ever beaten a decent fighter except for 1 CW. I mean, it's comedy, but it only got better when Floyd asked for 152.
                    ok, i learned something new,,, i never realized that was a CW,,,

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                    • GRboxing
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      Its cool,, and yes eubanks and liles arent big punchers,, i dont know why the tread was called biggest punchers,,, good fighters, but like you said,, not big punchers,,,
                      Reggie Johnson was just a scary task as was Liles, look at his title winning performance against Guthrie.... just before losing to Roy. Very scary KO and HBO did a special on Johnson leading up.


                      It was a big fight for Roy.

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