U are still not making sense. It doesn't matter what u think mosely would do to Guerrero. It doesn't matter that broner was on rings p4p list, no1 things he's p4p worthy anyways. Nearly everyone with sense considered PAC p4p king and for the best fighter in the world to fight Shane mosely when he did was pure crap.
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You don't honestly believe that, we disagree on a lot but you seem to at least know your boxing so I know that you know better than to think Mosley right now can beat Robert Guerrero who was the best option at 147 when he fought Floyd.Broner is ring top 10 p4p, was #5 recently before ever facing Paulie (<< Mosley). Wasn't Shane Floyd's best welter win since unretirement, just 1 year earlier? I mean I'm not even arguing it's a B level win, but F?! WTF is Robert Guerrero, who'd get blasted out even by this ancient and remoralized Mosley?Comment
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um, how about the thread about roy dodging the 6 biggest punchers of his era,,, you thought it was legit fights,,,, and thought roy fighting another champ in frankie liles was laughable,,, does that refresh your memory,,,,
look dude,, me and you and battle back and forth all night long but in the end run, we agree on alot of stuff, and its a shame that you constantly hate on me on the most ****** of things,,,, I really dont have a problem with you at all, we may differ sometimes, but i dont understand why you stalk my posts
I can see how you dont like my opinion on older fighters from the pre-60s days,, thats fine,, i can deal with that,, I have my opinion, just like you have yours,,, but we dont have to dog each other out on every thread,,, alot of the time we agree on stuff, we actually agree probably 85-90% of the time,,
Your jmm thread is a great example,,, so basically i just want to end this petty feud between us, and lets get back to just talking boxing,, and not all this petty stuff trying to one-up each other,,,, We dont have to be best friends but we also dont have to be 2 douche bags always battling over little things,,,,Comment
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Rios- B- , Chosen specifically to make Manny look good thinking he can use the win to get a big cash out fight .
Marquez A + , ATG could have been robbed 2-3 previous fights with Manny but finally wiped him out when forcing Juan up backfired on Roachs plan of forcing the counter boxer to trade , he did .
Bradley A , good fighter in his prime
Mosley A + but shot , was shamelessly ducked when winning big and Manny fought him only after Shane was looking bad after 2 loses .
Margo B + A- , time of fight was way out of form and drained ( diuretic's ) been out for 2 yrs CWed to 150 and put in a 26 ft ring with illegal gloves on .
Mannys resume from Diaz on is full of manipulated match making and cherry picking or flat out ducking , its amazing when you really put it under scrutiny .Comment
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Shane was still a Ring top 5 welter, and the best available guy Pac hadn't trampled. You could argue Berto, that'd be funny.U are still not making sense. It doesn't matter what u think mosely would do to Guerrero. It doesn't matter that broner was on rings p4p list, no1 things he's p4p worthy anyways. Nearly everyone with sense considered PAC p4p king and for the best fighter in the world to fight Shane mosely when he did was pure crap.
Look, Floyd was p4p #1 and fought Ortiz and Guerrero, who only deserved it on the basis of their ring ranking. I mean even an old Mosley is much better than these jokers, even now!Comment
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Guerrero welter qualifications:
Fringe Aydin, not a legit contender. RG barely stayed up on his feet. Karass showed us how it's done. And Jojo Dan.
Berto is Berto. He wasn't top 10 ranked anywhere, coming back off his PED suspension with a new shoulder roll. Decent win, but again nothing Karass couldn't do.
I agree scarce options, same for Mosley vs Pac. But someone that is in awe of Aydin's punching power isn't staying with Shane for 12 even now. Imagine Guerrero vs Canelo, it's Josesito part 2. And that's after Pac knocked him down and sent him running.Comment
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Lol dude, ur in denial. Shane was shot. He's was not and is not better than either of those guys IMO. And even with that said, the worst part is that Shane mosely had looked like absolute crap going into that fight. At least those fighters were coming off good wins.Shane was still a Ring top 5 welter, and the best available guy Pac hadn't trampled. You could argue Berto, that'd be funny.
Look, Floyd was p4p #1 and fought Ortiz and Guerrero, who only deserved it on the basis of their ring ranking. I mean even an old Mosley is much better than these jokers, even now!Comment
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The top welters were Bradley, Pacquiao, and Marquez. Tim couldn't get a Floyd fight at Top Rank, nor did he pursue one. Marquez just knocked Manny out and Floyd already beat the hell out of Juan. Robert was the interim WBC Champ only because Floyd was the Champ. He was the best fighter at the weight not named Floyd, how can anyone have a problem with that matchup.Guerrero welter qualifications:
Fringe Aydin, not a legit contender. RG barely stayed up on his feet. Karass showed us how it's done. And Jojo Dan.
Berto is Berto. He wasn't top 10 ranked anywhere, coming back off his PED suspension with a new shoulder roll. Decent win, but again nothing Karass couldn't do.
I agree scarce options, same for Mosley vs Pac. But someone that is in awe of Aydin's punching power isn't staying with Shane for 12 even now. Imagine Guerrero vs Canelo, it's Josesito part 2. And that's after Pac knocked him down and sent him running.Comment

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