Rate Manny Pacquiao's last 5 Opponents, Including Rios?

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  • HeroBando
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    #91
    Originally posted by GRboxing
    Canelo was untested when he fought Mosley obviously. Who was Holmes best win before Ali?
    He was SWW champ, and that was his best opponent. He's now Ring champ, Ring p4p with a much worse version of Mosley as his #2 win. So what's much worse than an F?

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      #92
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      Aren't you a Broner booster? Mosley is still better than that Paulie that punked Broner. That's years and 2 bad losses later. It's still megastar Canelo's #2 win, at an unfavorable weight and coming off the Pac embarrassment. Saul couldn't drop him or send him running
      Mosley was an F- for Canelo lol...no fighter that is allegedly "elite" should have fought Mosley after they saw Floyd dismantle him and draw a fight with Mora.

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        #93
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        Guy, look at the WW top 10. It's ALL blown up JWWs, or lower. Bradley was the best of those, no question. Pac routed the last batch of natural welters. There's Thurman coming up just now, that's it.
        One Matthysse creams Garcia he will crap all over Bradley in the P4P ranks.

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          #94
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          He was SWW champ, and that was his best opponent. He's now Ring champ, Ring p4p with a much worse version of Mosley as his #2 win. So what's much worse than an F?
          This isn't about Canelo. I've said in the past the fight meant little it was a show against a name. Again try and stay on topic. wtf is wrong with you

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            #95
            Originally posted by GRboxing
            It was a joke for Manny. He had top welters or junior middles to fight against why not fight guys IN A DIVISION YOURE FIGHTING IN.

            You call me the tard yet youre the same fcking idiot calling Holyfield greater than Barney Ross Holyfield and all his great wins over Dokes (who) Moorer (Who) and washups like Foreman and Tyson.

            I'm sure you rate Gatti higher too. Fcking idiot. Don't make me bump the thread in the history forum where everyone told you to STFU for a night
            Once again you make no sense,,,, So oscar should have never fought floyd,, there was other jr mids to fight,, and hagler shouldnt have fought SRL, other mids to fight, and gatti ******, but they call him a "throwback" because that was the level of those guys back in the day,,, gatti-ward would have been dominant champs back in the mob days,,,

            Throw in a henry armstrong, floyd, roy jones, srl or srr, and all those great fighters of the 30's and 40's would have crapped their pants and looked about as dominant as gatti did vs oscar or ivan robinson,,

            Go ahead and bump the thread in history,,, Sorry i feel that the old school guys are overrated and protected by the mob,, and black guys and latinos got dogged out,,,
            You guys are a bunch of wanna be historians going off what people tell you, yet you cant use critical thinking skills if it bite you in the arse,,,,,

            the only guys you know from that era is what you boxrec'd and read about,, like the mob was running stuff back then protecting the italian, ***ish, and irish fighter,,,
            How many black guys did dempsey fight
            sam langford, black murderers row,,, how long did SRR have to wait to get a title shot,,,
            Arent you the idiot that brought up baby joe gans,, even though that wasnt THE joe gans that is famous, just a guy with the same name,,,,, lol,
            but keep watching old footage with no context of what happened and who was around,,,,

            And to say any fighter is leagues above holyfield is laughable,, I dont care if your talking about Ali, srr or whoever,,, Holyfield is a top 100 fighter of all time,,, no one is leagues above him,,,

            So go ahead and bump the thread,,, I stick by my opinion,,

            Do you still stick by that bradley-manny and srl-hagler were joke fights, but roy jones fighting vinny paz, lucas and brannon were top challenges,,
            your an idiot and everyone knows it,,,,

            so do what you gotta do, keep watching guys from the 30's and 40's and think they fought in the toughest era and would blow away guys like holyfield,,,,

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              #96
              Originally posted by DempseyRollin
              Dude, mosely was a horrible fight for the p4p #1 fighter in the world to be taking. Theres a point where bias is just ******ed. I think uve reached it. Bromer is no paquiao. Their Kevel of opposition should not be the same.
              Broner is ring top 10 p4p, was #5 recently before ever facing Paulie (<< Mosley). Wasn't Shane Floyd's best welter win since unretirement, just 1 year earlier? I mean I'm not even arguing it's a B level win, but F?! WTF is Robert Guerrero, who'd get blasted out even by this ancient and remoralized Mosley?

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                #97
                Originally posted by GRboxing
                This isn't about Canelo. I've said in the past the fight meant little it was a show against a name. Again try and stay on topic. wtf is wrong with you
                I'm questioning the guys rating scale. That's legit, right? The scale better make sense. Like if you have Mosley F, and Guerrero better than J, that wouldn't make sense, right?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Check_hooks
                  Mosley B+

                  Shane just lost against Floyd and got a draw against Mora which everyone thought Mosley clearly won. Alot of people were saying Pacquiao would never fight a black fighter even though he fought Clottey. He was still a top ranked WW and a future HOFer


                  Marquez A-
                  This fight was at a catchweight but that was to benefit Marquez. JMM ended up weighing more than Pacquiao did. Top 5 on the P4P list future HOFer

                  Bradley A+
                  Best fighter at 140. Undeafeated. Alot of people were saying Pacquiao would never fight a slick black fighter in his prime. Guess what, he did and won easily but got robbed.

                  Marquez A+
                  Tried to fight Cotto but Cotto still has nightmares from moonwalking. JMM is still top 5 on the pound for pound at the time. Future HOFer. This makes it 3 opponents in a row in the top 10 P4P and 2 in the top 5. I don't think this has ever happened in the sport of boxing. Future HOFer

                  Rios B-
                  Tried to fight JMM and Bradley but both turned him down. This was the best fight available for Pacquiao and also the toughest. Rios stopped Alvarado in the first fight and lost a close decision (Dave Moretti 113-115 | judge: Bill Lerch 113-115 | judge: Duane Ford 113-114) in the rematch. That fight could've gone either way. And you can bet the farm on Rios being the bigger man on fight night

                  Overall A

                  No one else in boxing even comes close
                  I was having a dull day, this was just the laugh I needed.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    Once again you make no sense,,,, So oscar should have never fought floyd,, there was other jr mids to fight,, and hagler shouldnt have fought SRL, other mids to fight, and gatti ******, but they call him a "throwback" because that was the level of those guys back in the day,,, gatti-ward would have been dominant champs back in the mob days,,,

                    Throw in a henry armstrong, floyd, roy jones, srl or srr, and all those great fighters of the 30's and 40's would have crapped their pants and looked about as dominant as gatti did vs oscar or ivan robinson,,

                    Go ahead and bump the thread in history,,, Sorry i feel that the old school guys are overrated and protected by the mob,, and black guys and latinos got dogged out,,,
                    You guys are a bunch of wanna be historians going off what people tell you, yet you cant use critical thinking skills if it bite you in the arse,,,,,

                    the only guys you know from that era is what you boxrec'd and read about,, like the mob was running stuff back then protecting the italian, ***ish, and irish fighter,,,
                    How many black guys did dempsey fight
                    sam langford, black murderers row,,, how long did SRR have to wait to get a title shot,,,
                    Arent you the idiot that brought up baby joe gans,, even though that wasnt THE joe gans that is famous, just a guy with the same name,,,,, lol,
                    but keep watching old footage with no context of what happened and who was around,,,,

                    And to say any fighter is leagues above holyfield is laughable,, I dont care if your talking about Ali, srr or whoever,,, Holyfield is a top 100 fighter of all time,,, no one is leagues above him,,,

                    So go ahead and bump the thread,,, I stick by my opinion,,

                    Do you still stick by that bradley-manny and srl-hagler were joke fights, but roy jones fighting vinny paz, lucas and brannon were top challenges,,
                    your an idiot and everyone knows it,,,,

                    so do what you gotta do, keep watching guys from the 30's and 40's and think they fought in the toughest era and would blow away guys like holyfield,,,,
                    Where did I ever say Roy Jones against Brannon, Lucas and Pazienza were top opponents for Roy Jones?

                    More importantly, how do you manage to go full ****** in every post? It's amazing. My screen is covered in drool thanks to your dribbling arse.

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                    • GRboxing
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      I'm questioning the guys rating scale. That's legit, right? The scale better make sense. Like if you have Mosley F, and Guerrero better than J, that wouldn't make sense, right?
                      Make a thread on it.

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