Prime Roy Jones Vs Andre Ward, who you got?

[BoxingFollower]

SMW Roy Jones Vs Andre Ward.

I got Roy by Ko.

[mathed]

Ward gets destroyed, KO in 4 rounds

[K-DOGG]

Ya know, this is an intriguing matchup. Andre is very versatile and much more technically sound than Roy ever was....of course, so was James Toney. Roy's ****** fast reflexes and speed would be a hard nut to crack for any fighter, yet the way to do it, or at least the path to doing it is a good jab. Andre has that. Also, the kid doesn't know how to lose, which helps.

Shoot. This one's a toss up.

Roy could stun him with one of those lightning fast punches; but combo punching never was one of his strengths and I don't see him getting Ward out of there with one shot. Actually, that might be the edge Andre needs.

I'll give it to Andre Ward by a close, hotly contested, hard to score decision.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

Roy all day

[Bigg Rigg]

Roy knocks out Ward

[Luilun]

SMW Roy Jones Vs Andre Ward.

I got Roy by Ko.

Roy Ko in 1 to 4 rounds not even James Toney could beat him and Ward is no James Toney that's the young version

[bojangles1987]

Jones comfortably. He does not stop Ward.

[bojangles1987]

Ya know, this is an intriguing matchup. Andre is very versatile and much more technically sound than Roy ever was....of course, so was James Toney. Roy's ****** fast reflexes and speed would be a hard nut to crack for any fighter, yet the way to do it, or at least the path to doing it is a good jab. Andre has that. Also, the kid doesn't know how to lose, which helps.

Shoot. This one's a toss up.

Roy could stun him with one of those lightning fast punches; but combo punching never was one of his strengths and I don't see him getting Ward out of there with one shot. Actually, that might be the edge Andre needs.

I'll give it to Andre Ward by a close, hotly contested, hard to score decision.

Roy Jones wasn't a combo puncher? WTF, of all the things you read on this site...

[K-DOGG]

Roy Jones wasn't a combo puncher? WTF, of all the things you read on this site...

Maybe I wasn't exact enough. I'm not saying he couldn't or didn't unleash combinations. I'm just saying he wasn't a traditional combo-punching boxer.

Did Jones unleash combos? Yes; but when did he unleash them? In 9 out of 10 cases, Jones was dominating a fight when he decided to let his hands go in staccato bursts. He dominated fights predominantly because his opponents were scared of getting countered by his lighting fast punches. What did I say there? COUNTERED. Countered implies that Jones was waiting for them to lead either with a punch, so he could take advantage of the opening, or with a feint for the same reason. Did Jones ever take the lead? Yes; but only when he was sure there would be nothing coming back at him. He would ensure this either by darting out of the way, punching from a weird angle, or unleashing 5 or 6 punches and then moving. When I think of a traditional combo puncher, I think of a Mike Tyson whose bread and butter were his combos. Jones outthought and outsped more than outfought his opponents.

If you take a fighter like Ward, who is active, then Jones is forced to counter, which sounds like it's right up his alley...what he wants to do. The difference is Ward would keep on coming. In the heat of the battle, Jones rarely slugged it out. He dictated the pace of the fight, or he pot shotted looking for opportunities to open up. Jones did great when he was in charge and rarely faced a situation or an opponent in which that wasn't the case.

I don't feel Ward would allow that. Ward would box Jones and force Jones into a position only Tarver was able to do. Jones didn't open up much against Tarver...in the first fight, we know about the second.

So, to clarify: Jones was a combo puncher when he was confident he could get away with it. Ward, IMO, would take away that confidence, forcing Jones to be more cautious. The caution would therefore eliminate any real combo punching by Jones except for a handful of occasions.....and not enough to win the fight.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Maybe I wasn't exact enough. I'm not saying he couldn't or didn't unleash combinations. I'm just saying he wasn't a traditional combo-punching boxer.

Did Jones unleash combos? Yes; but when did he unleash them? In 9 out of 10 cases, Jones was dominating a fight when he decided to let his hands go in staccato bursts. He dominated fights predominantly because his opponents were scared of getting countered by his lighting fast punches. What did I say there? COUNTERED. Countered implies that Jones was waiting for them to lead either with a punch, so he could take advantage of the opening, or with a feint for the same reason. Did Jones ever take the lead? Yes; but only when he was sure there would be nothing coming back at him. He would ensure this either by darting out of the way, punching from a weird angle, or unleashing 5 or 6 punches and then moving. When I think of a traditional combo puncher, I think of a Mike Tyson whose bread and butter were his combos. Jones outthought and outsped more than outfought his opponents.

If you take a fighter like Ward, who is active, then Jones is forced to counter, which sounds like it's right up his alley...what he wants to do. The difference is Ward would keep on coming. In the heat of the battle, Jones rarely slugged it out. He dictated the pace of the fight, or he pot shotted looking for opportunities to open up. Jones did great when he was in charge and rarely faced a situation or an opponent in which that wasn't the case.

I don't feel Ward would allow that. Ward would box Jones and force Jones into a position only Tarver was able to do. Jones didn't open up much against Tarver...in the first fight, we know about the second.

So, to clarify: Jones was a combo puncher when he was confident he could get away with it. Ward, IMO, would take away that confidence, forcing Jones to be more cautious. The caution would therefore eliminate any real combo punching by Jones except for a handful of occasions.....and not enough to win the fight.

good lord...we have a K-DOGG sighting...its like 2003 ESB all over again...