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  • #11
    Clottey wasn't no dive

    He felt Pac's power early on and realized that he had to be careful or else he was getting ktfo

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    • #12
      Where is the source for this?

      Then again, it's Arum LOL

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ßringer View Post
        It was actually something like 2 months after when it was officially confirmed, but rumors about the signing started circulating within a week or two of the result. Hopkins fought De La Hoya in September of 2004, and the official press release stating that Hopkins had signed with GBP came out in November.
        Your probably right about the official announcement,, but i swear it was like the following wednesday that everyone was talking about it,,,,,

        Always seemed fishy to me

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        • #14
          Originally posted by PBP View Post
          He was down by 6 points on one scorecard and 4 on another with 3 rounds to go.

          He couldn't of won the fight on points regardless. Why would he take a dive? So Hopkins can have a KO over him or because he quit?
          That's what I thought , he wasn't favorite in the betting , he was losing the fight with no chance of winning, why take a dive it makes no sense .

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          • #15
            I doubt he did! Anyone who wonders about a well place kidney or liver shot really needs to get to a gym and someone there will "show you"!!
            You are paralized for as much as a minute in some cases and the pain is at a high level even for people with high tolerances!
            You will see most fighters stuck with their knees on the canvas as they try to rise like Oscar did but can't!! You'll also see their feet kick trying to get up but the pain is intense. Ray.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
              Clottey wasn't no dive

              He felt Pac's power early on and realized that he had to be careful or else he was getting ktfo
              Is that why Clottey stopped punching when he was busting Manny up , the retirement to the Ba***** was just Bobs long service leave LOL

              Clottey even alludes to it in an interview that was posted on the forum .

              You Pac ******s are such gullible little chocolate coated cookies LOL

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              • #17
                Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
                Arum accused Oscar of taking a dive against Hopkins. Erik Morales also said Oscar took a dive. I do remember back then when the fight was over many people thought that the whole fight was a big farce and that Oscar took a dive. Even today when I talk about that fight with people lots of fans still have doubts over that fight.

                I mean a precise body shot to the liver and you'll go down no matter how tough you are....but was Oscar in pain or did he take a dive?

                I have always thought he did. If you are sound of mind enough to pound the canvas in frustration from supposedly being in too much pain to continue, he should have been able to get up. How many pro's pound the canvas after a fight ending body shot?

                Did Virgil Hill when Roy failed him?

                Did Castillo when Hatton creamed him?

                Did Macklin when GGG landed that beast?

                NOPE.

                STAGED KO. Hopkins don't even go to the body on a normal basis.

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                • #18
                  Pacquiao vs Clottey was a farce. I'm sure Arum offered him a nice bonus for not fighting back. That snooz fest was rigged as hell!

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                  • #19
                    I don't think it was just a matter of being in pain but also of not being able to breave.

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                    • #20
                      I don't think it was anything corrupt. More likely De la Hoya would rather say he got hit with a great shot than admit to being dominated over a whole fight (which is what was happening).

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