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  • joe strong
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    #31
    Originally posted by Weltschmerz
    Another cherry pick cash cow for Haye.
    How is it a cherry pick? Fury won 2 eliminators & is a top contender in all bodies... Fury is a cherry pick but mormeck, sosnowski, kingpin, pianeta, charr, briggs(at 39, heavy & inactive against real opponents) are not? Come on man! You must be joking.... Then again

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    • Weltschmerz
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      #32
      Originally posted by joe strong
      How is it a cherry pick? Fury won 2 eliminators & is a top contender in all bodies... Fury is a cherry pick but mormeck, sosnowski, kingpin, pianeta, charr, briggs(at 39, heavy & inactive against real opponents) are not? Come on man! You must be joking.... Then again
      It's a cherry pick because Haye was due to fight the almighty Charr himself, then pulled ouy with a fake hand injury, because the Fury CASH fight could be made. I don't blame him, don't get me wrong. But it's very obvious he during his HW run has been carefully ducking and selecting fighters, not to become HW Champ, but to cash in and run with the money. And he's about to do yet again.

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        #33
        Seems to me that each is genuinely under-rating the other. Should make for fireworks if that's right.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Weltschmerz
          It's a cherry pick because Haye was due to fight the almighty Charr himself, then pulled ouy with a fake hand injury, because the Fury CASH fight could be made. I don't blame him, don't get me wrong. But it's very obvious he during his HW run has been carefully ducking and selecting fighters, not to become HW Champ, but to cash in and run with the money. And he's about to do yet again.
          Don't be a prat. Fury is more of a risk than Charr.

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          • Ravens Fan
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            #35
            Originally posted by Own3d
            The only reason he didn't have the IBF title is because O'Neil Bell was stripped before Mormeck won the rematch. So technically he wasn't but he should have been.
            What is it that they say "should've, could've, would've"? So, what you are saying is that in reality Haye was only a one division champion, right? Because if you want to go that route Haye was not the WBA heavyweight champion. Because he lost to Wlad who should have been the WBA belt holder when he beat Chagaev.

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            • LacedUp
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ravens Fan
              What is it that they say "should've, could've, would've"? So, what you are saying is that in reality Haye was only a one division champion, right? Because if you want to go that route Haye was not the WBA heavyweight champion. Because he lost to Wlad who should have been the WBA belt holder when he beat Chagaev.
              You are both nitpicking here.

              Haye was universally recognized as THE cw champion. There's no questioning that. Both by the ring, boxrec and the bodies. Technically, Cunningham held a paper belt, as Haye did at heavy..

              But his CW career was legit.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                Pianeta wasn't a great challenge for Wlad, but he was legitimate.

                I'd love to see Wlad-Fury (as I know many other's here would) because it's a good match up. Haye-Fury isn't a good match up, as Fury is a tailor made KO victim for davey.

                I am Danish, I've told you that before
                Wait wait wait a minute..

                Did you just say he'd be a legitimate fight for the heavyweight champ of the world, but not for a mere contender, who btw, you have referred to as a joke and a coward on multiple occassions? Explain please.

                You are not Danish, come on. Where are you from?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  You are both nitpicking here.

                  Haye was universally recognized as THE cw champion. There's no questioning that. Both by the ring, boxrec and the bodies. Technically, Cunningham held a paper belt, as Haye did at heavy..

                  But his CW career was legit.
                  By legit do you mean the whole four month period that he was CW champion? And the incredible 2 rounds he fought as the champ? Wow, what a career at CW. And it is simple nothing can be undisputed if it is in fact disputed. Just like Wlad isn't the undisputed champ regardless of how many alphabet boys and magazines recognize him as such.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                    By legit do you mean the whole four month period that he was CW champion? And the incredible 2 rounds he fought as the champ? Wow, what a career at CW. And it is simple nothing can be undisputed if it is in fact disputed. Just like Wlad isn't the undisputed champ regardless of how many alphabet boys and magazines recognize him as such.
                    Did I say undisputed? Or did I say that he was universally recognized as the champ? And who cares about how many fights he had or how many rounds he fought as champion? He mentioned weight problems all the way back in 2005, fought the champions and moved up to heavyweight.

                    The CW division has traditionally always been a gateway for the heavyweight divison since it was made, so who the hell cares?

                    Steve Cunningham was a fighter who couldn't even sellout a fight in his home town, and who had fought for a paper belt. Add to that the weight issues, and Haye already beat the other champs in the division, he had done enough at CW.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Did I say undisputed? Or did I say that he was universally recognized as the champ? And who cares about how many fights he had or how many rounds he fought as champion? He mentioned weight problems all the way back in 2005, fought the champions and moved up to heavyweight.

                      The CW division has traditionally always been a gateway for the heavyweight divison since it was made, so who the hell cares?

                      Steve Cunningham was a fighter who couldn't even sellout a fight in his home town, and who had fought for a paper belt. Add to that the weight issues, and Haye already beat the other champs in the division, he had done enough at CW.
                      You may have not said it but that was my point. Someone must also care because they keep making claims that are not true and overemphasis Haye's overrated career as a CW. Now back to my point that he was never the undisputed CW champ like so many Brits want us to believe, he just wasn't. End of discussion.
                      Last edited by Ravens Fan; 08-22-2013, 10:12 AM.

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