5 keys to defeating Floyd Mayweather: A 17 year study

[waxfondler]

Williams couldn't deal with movers, he got outboxed by Quintana and Lara. Just like Margarito, these volume punchers get easily neutralized if you either move, clinch or do both.

he KO'd quintana later.... regarding lara, p-will was one of those fighters where a KO loss REALLY changed him... p-will honestly looked shook, no punch resistance, and simply worn.... lara got robbed, another haymon decision.

regarding volume punchers vs movers, it all depends on how they cut the ring off... margs was able to chase cotto around the first fight, but couldnt in the rematch... @ 147, floyd wasnt that mobile. and he got even more stationary as time went by. thats why its so impressive how he was able to get his legs going again against guerrero.

margs would rough floyd up. i know alot of people **** on margs, but he REALLY was a beast. and it wouldve been a HARD night for floyd if he fought prime margs. clenching, elbows, it doesnt matter... margs smothers and imposes his will on you. baldomir got nothing on margs, no comparison. who knows? maybe we mightve seen vintage floyd had he fought margs...

[BUNGALOWS]

I'm done with this thread. I did my job in keeping the lonely Floyd groupies in check.

You Floyd groupies need to get out more, and experience life. Get a GF, a hobby, a passion besides Floyd. It puts things into perspective.

[B Phontain]

1. Their southpaw stance had a ton to do with beating Paul. He was susceptible to the straight left. Something Sergio and Quintana taught Laura.

2. Floyd isn't a southpaw that is willing to **** on the inside to beat Paul. That's why they beat him.

3. I didn't have to convince myself of anything. The hardcore boxing fans always said Paul would beat Floyd, and it was a bad matchup for Floyd.

So, now that Sergio KO'd him, someone that Floyd fights nothing like, and Lara "beat" him, after the Sergio fight, so Paul was Sergio's leftovers, now I'm supposed to believe Floyd would beat Paul?

I didn't add Quintana, because Paul disposed of him like he should've in the 1st fight.

idk man i cant think of the last fighter who's punch output didnt drop significantly when they fought floyd. I dont think p will or margs for that matter would have been exceptions. You dont think floyd would have found a home on p wills noggin for his second favorite punch...the left hook? Also imo floyd is one of the best inside fighters of this era and is actually underrated in that area for some strange reason.

height-
p will - 6'1
tony pep- 6'1 1/2
philip ndou 5 10 1/2
diego corrales 5 10 1/2
antonio margarito 5 11

i dont think floyd would have any problems reaching those chins....

[BoZz]

I see lots of pacquiao fan boys giving their hateful opinion,If I was you I would be hiding,you still remember the KO that midget has suffered??? JMM is someone who looked like a kid who has never boxed against mayweather but still was good enough to beat poocqy moocqyaio ahaahahhhha

[waxfondler]

True. Pwill's only problem was he dropped his hands down so he could work the body-creating wide openings. I think one of the most accurate fighters ever would've taken advantage of that.

The question is would floyd's accuracy reduce pwill''s workrate over the course of the fight.

the same way we can ask whether p-wills punch variety and output can outshine floyds potshots...

it was definitely an intriguing match-up... there were plenty of fighters that wouldve been interesting to see against floyd.

thats why i wouldve loved to see them instead of speculate.

[BoZz]

Floyd is the best,haterz gon hate..but you kno the truth..nobody beats money may

[dc3383]

he KO'd quintana later.... regarding lara, p-will was one of those fighters where a KO loss REALLY changed him... p-will honestly looked shook, no punch resistance, and simply worn.... lara got robbed, another haymon decision.

regarding volume punchers vs movers, it all depends on how they cut the ring off... margs was able to chase cotto around the first fight, but couldnt in the rematch... @ 147, floyd wasnt that mobile. and he got even more stationary as time went by. thats why its so impressive how he was able to get his legs going again against guerrero.

margs would rough floyd up. i know alot of people **** on margs, but he REALLY was a beast. and it wouldve been a HARD night for floyd if he fought prime margs. clenching, elbows, it doesnt matter... margs smothers and imposes his will on you. baldomir got nothing on margs, no comparison. who knows? maybe we mightve seen vintage floyd had he fought margs...

Floyd in 2006 was highly mobile; I see nothing in Margirito arsenal that would pose problems he was just to slow; punches are to looping and a leaky defense I call that a recipe for a 120-108 UD decision.

[Brockton Lip]

Margarito would've given Mayweather hell, that would've been a great fight. Williams I would have picked to beat Mayweather if they fought, that would be a harder match up for Mayweather than even Margarito.

[waxfondler]

See the thing is those guys sidestepped him only to come calling when it was in their best financial interest. he didn't pick up the crumbs, he did excatly what SRL did-he fought the last guy standing. Only difference is floyd didn't rent out an arena and invite Hagler there to pretnd he was announcing the mega fight. but thats for another debate.

Floyd capitalized on his newfound marketability. yeah he did WWE and AT&T and DWTS. SHould he have turned them down?

The wear and tear argument is fair, the SRL argument-fighting once a year after turning 30-seems more applicable. I'm a floyd fan so of course we see it differently. But its also clear there is a precedent/blueprint floyd and haymon seem to be following.

in regards to boxing, he SHOULDVE fought. simple. some fighters get famous for what they do in the ring, some fighters get famous for what they do out... and some can balance the two... i think we both agree he bailed on the sport to further solidify his financials. what i got beef with is the fact he bailed period. i was a floyd fan before pac, but some of the things floyd does is just maddening. LOL.

a lot of people **** on SRL too... the thing is i am a floyd fan as well, but i am quick to call out BS when i see it.

talk about blueprint, they got that **** down to a science.

[The Big Dunn]

the same way we can ask whether p-wills punch variety and output can outshine floyds potshots...

it was definitely an intriguing match-up... there were plenty of fighters that wouldve been interesting to see against floyd.

thats why i wouldve loved to see them instead of speculate.

Agreed. Unfortunately things happen in the business of prize fighting.