Comments Thread For: Mayweather: No Shot For Pacquiao , He Blew His Chance

[Mr. Philadel]

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@18:29-19:09

[GRboxing]

Here you go bud. During the last 3 weeks or so he was being trained for speed. Prior to weigh-in, Oscar had already made weight easily ... an "easy 146"


- "Oscar De La Hoya needs more speed for his bout with Manny Pacquiao, according to trainer Nacho Beristain. De La Hoya is currently training in the Californian mountains ahead of his December 6 date with Pacquiao in Las Vegas, and Beristain, known as 'Nacho', says increasing his man's hand speed is a priority against such a quick hitter as the Filipino. Beristain said: "There are three weeks left until the fight with Manny, and we are looking to work on Oscar's speed. He has reached the peak of his conditioning, so we're going to try and accomplish an increase in his speed. "

- "There has been a lot of talk about the weight difference between the two, Oscar is a very disciplined fighter and his drop in weight will not be a factor." "

- "I feel that Oscar is a better boxer than Pacquiao. Style wise and conditioning wise, I am confident Oscar will beat him. "

- "His weight will be no big deal. I predict maybe a pound and a half will separate Oscar and Manny at most on fight night. Oscar will dictate the fight for the most part."

http://www.boxinglatest.co.uk/2008/1...for-speed.html



"He (De La Hoya) is already at 146, an easy 146, and his resting heart rate is 35 beats-per-minute. A marathoner's is usually around 40 or 45."

http://suite101.com/article/oscar-de...acquiao-a78344

Delahoya a disciplined fighter lmao

[GRUSTLER]

Floyd is at least 80% responsible for the fight not happening. HE didnt want it and still doesnt. Move on.

Floyd is 80% to blame but it's documented that Manny is the one who walked away from the fight at its peak because of a simple random blood/urine testing cut off? You do know that this is documented right?

[GRboxing]

Floyd is 80% to blame but it's documented that Manny is the one who walked away from the fight at its peak because of a simple random blood/urine testing cut off? You do know that this is documented right?

Arum/Mayweather/Manny are all to blame

Floyd for the BS 40 million dollar offer
Pac for being a smiling puppet and making up lies
Arum for cancelling negotiations then trying to lie

[junior gong]

Floyd is 80% to blame but it's documented that Manny is the one who walked away from the fight at its peak because of a simple random blood/urine testing cut off? You do know that this is documented right?

Keep telling yourself that, sunshine, if it makes you feel better. You might even be able to trick a few jnr floms/boners into believing that. It wasnt that 'simple' as you put it. Having yourself and everyone on your team publicly and grotesquely accuse someone of being a drug cheat just because you're jealous of the shine the guy is getting, before any negotiating has started is a sure fire way of getting yourself told to fook right off.

The most toecurlingly embarrasing thing about all of these so called negotiations, was floyd, publicly again(see a pattern here?), demanding 100% of the tv money. Watching you lot disgustingly trying to justify it was also one of the funniest things I have seen since I found this site.

[GRUSTLER]

--------why did arum asked hbo's greenburg to help broker a fight deal with floyd's camp if arum is the one stalling the fight from happening????? --------if pac turned down 40 mil $ that you said pac never made in a fight as a headliner then it is the same with floyd..he never made more than 45 mil $ (counter offered by pac's camp with ppv) in a single fight.

That's like asking "When Mayweather reserved to fight before he went to jail and issued the challenge to Pacquiao why did Arum say Manny cut would not heal in time and that he needed to build a stadium but wanted to take Floyd's reservation for another Marquez fight when he thought Mayweather was going in." To me, the fight was supposed to be sealed in 2009 and done in 2010. Manny had 1000 reasons why not to agree to the cut of, of the random blood and urine tests which made no sense. Kind of idiotic to do it now with Rios.

Should have stuck to his guns, but guess he didn't like getting put to sleep by Marquez who he probably thinks cheated him. Manny just solidified Mayweather's claim for fair fights. But yet Floyd is the one scared? Is Manny scared of Rios? Or does he just want a fair fight? Questions never answered by Manny's fans. Mayweather has made more than 40MIL for one fight but Manny has NEVER made 40MIL in one fight, so why give him an even share? That's not business. If you want to say because Manny was/is popular then so was Hatton but Manny almost let the fight go because he felt like he should get the bigger share.

[GRUSTLER]

Arum/Mayweather/Manny are all to blame

Floyd for the BS 40 million dollar offer
Pac for being a smiling puppet and making up lies
Arum for cancelling negotiations then trying to lie

At first I thought that but now I think about it like. Who turns down 40MIL that had NEVER made 40MIL. Floyd is the top earner in the sport. Manny fights that he headlines doesn't even make him 40MIL.

[GRUSTLER]

Keep telling yourself that, sunshine, if it makes you feel better. You might even be able to trick a few jnr floms/boners into believing that. It wasnt that 'simple' as you put it. Having yourself and everyone on your team publicly and grotesquely accuse someone of being a drug cheat just because you're jealous of the shine the guy is getting, before any negotiating has started is a sure fire way of getting yourself told to fook right off.

The most toecurlingly embarrasing thing about all of these so called negotiations, was floyd, publicly again(see a pattern here?), demanding 100% of the tv money. Watching you lot disgustingly trying to justify it was also one of the funniest things I have seen since I found this site.

The thing is.... Manny felt like he was in his right to not fight and sue (which he did) but if he was really totally in his feelings about it..... why continue talking about making the fight with Mayweather if he truly felt insulted? Tell me again why the fight didn't happen in 2009? Oh, is because Floyd called Manny a cheat? Awwww poor Manny. I guess Roach saying that Mosley and Marquez could possibly be cheating in the media is enough grounds for them to sue too, right? Unlike Pacquiao. Mosley and Marquez was down to get tested but Manny wasn't.

only wants testing after the most devasting defeat in his career. So by him wanting testing with Rios.... is he calling Rios a cheat? Is it right for Manny to request a test to Rios who has never been caught cheating? Was it Manny saying he would take less money to fight Mayweather through the press and then get insulted when Mayweather actually followed up on Manny's statement? How dare he call Manny's bluff!

[GRboxing]

At first I thought that but now I think about it like. Who turns down 40MIL that hads NEVER made 40MIL. Floyd is the top earner in the sport. Manny fights that he headlines doesn't even make him 40MIL.

Maybe now but when everyone still wanted it even in 2012 Pac deserved more than that.

Mayweather would've made MUCH more than Pacquiao. It's an insult to Pacquiao and the #'s this fight would've done.

Really? NO PPV revenue for Manny? REALLY?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

The thing is.... Manny felt like her was in his right to not fight and sue (which he did) but if he was really totally in his feelings about it..... why continue talking about making the fight with Mayweather if he truly felt insulted? Tell me again why the fight didn't happen in 2009? Oh, is because Floyd called Manny a cheat? Awwww poor many. I guess Roach saying that Mosley and Marquez could possibly be cheating in the media is enough grounds for them to sue too, right? Unlike Pacquiao. Mosley and Marquez was down to get tested but Manny wasn't.

only wants testing after the most devasting defeat in his career. So by him wanting testing with Rios.... is he calling Rios a cheat? Is it right for Manny to request a test to Rios who has never been caught cheating? Was it Manny saying he would take less money to fight Mayweather through the press and then get insulted when Mayweather actually followed up on Manny's statement? How dare he call Manny's bluff!

Excellent points about Rios.