Comments Thread For: Mayweather: No Shot For Pacquiao , He Blew His Chance

[Deevel916]

Ok, so if Pacquiao knew he won the Bradley fight then why try to rematch Bradley AFTER he got KO'd by JMM?

After being robbed in the Bradley fight the bigger $ fight was a 4th fight with Marquez. There wasnt really much of a demand or fan outcry for an immediate rematch. After losing to JMM why not avenge a robbery and prove to Bradley that he indeed is the better fighter?

[maguirre]

LOL at Floyd fanboys. They whine whichever Pacquiao fights. There's a simple solution homeys. Convince your idol to grow balls and fight Pacquiao. It's very simple. Hehe...

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When Pac is doing good, Mayweather doesn't want to fight him. When Pac is on the decline, Mayweather doesn't want to fight him. Why?

Now I know both sides destroyed the dream match people have wanted to see, but this is just ****ing ridiculous. Anyone with common sense can see this.

Anyway, IDGAF anymore. Anything pertaining to Pac and Floyd is filled with ******ity.

I beg to differ......

If this doesn't say it all about Bob Arum's intentions on making this fight. I don't know what will.

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Arum also indicated he would like Pacquiao to get through the Hatton fight before going up against Mayweather saying“I want Mayweather to stay there (in retirement) until September. The longer he’s out the more rusty he’ll be."

December 16th 2008

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=17506

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"It's not so much that I give a damn whether this fight happens--I don't-- and for me it's not the greatest experience doing a promotion with Floyd Mayweather," Arum said. "But not to do this fight would slow down the momentum of boxing."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4672323

Nevertheless, immediately after the fight, Arum was talking about making Pacquiao-Marquez IV instead of Pacquiao-Mayweather.

“Bob said, ‘We don’t need Mayweather. We can do a fourth fight,’ ” Roach recalled.

“That’s what he said in the ring.”

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/stor...ecision-111511

The blind refuse to see.

[junior gong]

[QUOTE=GRUSTLER;13665340]I beg to differ......

Nevertheless, immediately after the fight, Arum was talking about making Pacquiao-Marquez IV instead of Pacquiao-Mayweather.

“Bob said, ‘We don’t need Mayweather. We can do a fourth fight,’ ” Roach recalled.

“That’s what he said in the ring.”

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/stor...ecision-111511
The blind refuse to see.

He's a liar when it suits you and a truth merchant when it suits you. GTFOH, Grus. Pathetic stuff.

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He's a liar when it suits you and a truth merchant when it suits you. GTFOH, Grus. Pathetic stuff.

I didn't say it. Why are you mad at me?

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After being robbed in the Bradley fight the bigger $ fight was a 4th fight with Marquez. There wasnt really much of a demand or fan outcry for an immediate rematch. After losing to JMM why not avenge a robbery and prove to Bradley that he indeed is the better fighter?

I understand this but what the poster was/is arguing is that Manny tried to rematch Bradley but he did not do it immediately. It wasn't about honor it was about money. He should have rematch Bradley instead of going for JMM. I thought Pacquiao already proved he was the better fighter than Bradley? Wasn't Manny robbed? I thought he didn't need to prove he could beat Bradley according to the poster who I was replying to.

[Ruthless One]

I beg to differ......

Like I said, both sides pulled off their own batch of nonsense so the fight wouldn't/couldn't happen. You just posted the Pac/Arum side of things. Now give me some from Mayweather's side.

Anyway, I just wanted to see these two great boxers fight each other eventually, so please understand my disappointment after reading the article.

[maguirre]

He's a liar when it suits you and a truth merchant when it suits you. GTFOH, Grus. Pathetic stuff.

Floyd can do no wrong to them. The floms never get tired of the useless stuff that has nothing to do with balls. Hehe...

[ADP02]

The fight was only at 147 because Manny would not go to 154 .

Now show us where Oscar says he came below 147 on purpose to get more speed .

I think people on this forum can spot liars like you pretty quick , you are one of the bunch that will just make sht up to back up your own BS , kiddo your a joke LOL .

Here you go bud. During the last 3 weeks or so he was being trained for speed. Prior to weigh-in, Oscar had already made weight easily ... an "easy 146"


- "Oscar De La Hoya needs more speed for his bout with Manny Pacquiao, according to trainer Nacho Beristain. De La Hoya is currently training in the Californian mountains ahead of his December 6 date with Pacquiao in Las Vegas, and Beristain, known as 'Nacho', says increasing his man's hand speed is a priority against such a quick hitter as the Filipino. Beristain said: "There are three weeks left until the fight with Manny, and we are looking to work on Oscar's speed. He has reached the peak of his conditioning, so we're going to try and accomplish an increase in his speed. "

- "There has been a lot of talk about the weight difference between the two, Oscar is a very disciplined fighter and his drop in weight will not be a factor." "

- "I feel that Oscar is a better boxer than Pacquiao. Style wise and conditioning wise, I am confident Oscar will beat him. "

- "His weight will be no big deal. I predict maybe a pound and a half will separate Oscar and Manny at most on fight night. Oscar will dictate the fight for the most part."

http://www.boxinglatest.co.uk/2008/1...for-speed.html



"He (De La Hoya) is already at 146, an easy 146, and his resting heart rate is 35 beats-per-minute. A marathoner's is usually around 40 or 45."

http://suite101.com/article/oscar-de...acquiao-a78344

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Like I said, both sides pulled off their own batch of nonsense so the fight wouldn't/couldn't happen. You just posted the Pac/Arum side of things. Now give me some from Mayweather's side.

To me it has and always will be Bob Arum. Who openly states in the press/media that he will not work with any other promoter unless they sign to him or give him the sole rights to promote the fights. I'm sure Floyd/Manny would fight. A lot of these posters don't know much about the sports politics and the relationship between Arum and Mayweather but prefer rather to spew out nonsense about Floyd being scared of Manny who he was down to fight twice. I refuse to dumb myself down like everyone else regarding this situation. I've been following the sport for a while and I know bull**** when I read and hear it. Manny walks away from 50/50 with random blood tests because of a 14 day cut off to fight Joshua Clottey (A top rank fighter) who just lost to Cotto a guy Manny already beat (Who was a top rank fighter) but Mayweather is scared of Manny?

The fight would have happened in 2009 but Manny didn't want it plain and simple but his fans say that the blood tests "were a road block" but now Manny takes them for Rios? get the F##K outta here with that Bull$#!t! How the hell do you turn down 40Mil when you ain't NEVER made 40 MIL for a fight EVEN as a headliner? The only thing I fault Floyd for is asking for the tests which gave Manny an excuse to back out considering Roach said they would not be an issue and once they accept that Mayweather would be scared. This is all on video and in articles but yet I'm making this up? It's cool if you don't like a certain fighter but to play and be a ****** JACK ASS to defend a fighter is crazy to me.