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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #21
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    Are you serious? Groves? I'd rate him miles below the likes of Quigg, Frampton, Khan and just about any other legit Brit fighter out there. He has skill and potential but his resume is thread bare.
    Yes. His resume isn't the strongest yet. But I like his mix of boxing and punching plus he appears to have a chin.

    I think eventually he will fare better against world class opponents than a lot of the other Brits will. Ricky Burns for example struggled in his last fight before his opponent quit. Amir Khan also had shaky moments in his most recent outing, against a shopworn vet.

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    • MPX309
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      #22
      ATM I'm liking

      Kell Brook
      Jamie MacDonald
      Carl Frampton

      I think Froch is leading the way currently though

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      • miniq
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        #23
        Some of these fighters haven't even fought at the top European level.. never mind world level. Don't name these losers. Froch is going to beat Groves... Froch is a world class fighter.

        Who the **** has Groves beat?

        Khan is still well above Brook since Brook hasn't had the balls or made the effort to fight top opponents.

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          #24
          Froch and Burns are out on their own in my opinion. Both world class operators, levels above their British counterparts. There are a few contenders for the 3rd spot, and it's difficult to separate them.

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            #25
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            Geale beat them didn't he?

            And 20 guys here:

            Froch
            Haye
            Khan
            Fury
            Brook
            Burns
            Frampton
            Quigg
            Groves
            Chisora

            DeGale
            Bellew
            Cleverly
            Macklin
            Murray
            Barker
            Saunders
            Gavin
            Rose
            Selby

            How the hell could you leave McDonnell out of the list? IBF world champion.

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            • soul_survivor
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              #26
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              The ones I bolded are not world level or close to it yet, though they may be in the future. I can agree to the others somewhat, but I don't think Bellew has really mixed it at world level yet, unless you count Cleverly, who at the time was given a belt.

              But I did forget about some of the middleweights (I knew I missed someone!). 15 is probably a good number at this stage, and even that is a heck of a good pool for world class fighters imo.
              bellew is about to get a world title shot and it's through hard work and coming up the old fashioned way. that definitely proves he is world class, whether he is championship material or not is up for debate. If he can stay away from Stevens power, he will get the win.

              Saunders is easily the best 160 pounder in the country not named Macklin, Murray or Barker. Not world class but in a year or so he will be there, hence me saying he is verging on being world class.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Cobra_
                How the hell could you leave McDonnell out of the list? IBF world champion.
                Genuinely just forgot lol but like I said, I could have listed even more people. Boxing is on a high in this country over the last 20 years or so and long may it continue.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Yes. His resume isn't the strongest yet. But I like his mix of boxing and punching plus he appears to have a chin.

                  I think eventually he will fare better against world class opponents than a lot of the other Brits will. Ricky Burns for example struggled in his last fight before his opponent quit. Amir Khan also had shaky moments in his most recent outing, against a shopworn vet.
                  Burns was trying to wipe away ring rust but agreed with the Khan assessment, he has looked worse in both his outings ever since he got with Hunter.

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    bellew is about to get a world title shot and it's through hard work and coming up the old fashioned way. that definitely proves he is world class, whether he is championship material or not is up for debate. If he can stay away from Stevens power, he will get the win.

                    Saunders is easily the best 160 pounder in the country not named Macklin, Murray or Barker. Not world class but in a year or so he will be there, hence me saying he is verging on being world class.
                    I don't agree that being a mandatory makes you world class. Look at the fighters he's been beaten: McKenzie, DMac, Chilemba.

                    Those guys were fringe contenders at best.

                    With regards to Saunders, I think he's def the most talented, but he hasn't stepped up to the plate so can't say he's world class or even close. But he will be.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      I don't agree that being a mandatory makes you world class. Look at the fighters he's been beaten: McKenzie, DMac, Chilemba.

                      Those guys were fringe contenders at best.

                      With regards to Saunders, I think he's def the most talented, but he hasn't stepped up to the plate so can't say he's world class or even close. But he will be.
                      Bellew has fought the best available guys at 175, I think he squeezed a win against Cleverly and Chilemba is a world class operator. Bellew's only lacking at having fought the truly best in his division but he was never "name" enough to get those fights, the likes of Cloud, Hopkins, Dawson, Pascal etc but he may just be headed there.

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