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  • GRboxing
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    #41
    Originally posted by Simurgh
    as you comparing wlad at his worst, how about danny williams or kevin mcbride...

    resume contains everything, you cant focus only on tyson's "prime" and a few years he was destroying everyone.
    Wlad would've always been given problems by Sanders

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    • Szef
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      #42
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      Oh okay,,, there was buster douglas,, after mike had become unmotivated and had already conquered the heavy division....

      do you really think douglas beats a motivated tyson,,,,,,

      mike fell off, but lets not act like the mike from 85-87 wasnt beating everyone's arse left and right...
      Of course there are thousands of excuses when it comes to Tyson losing to Douglas....He was unmotivated, his pigeon died, Cuz wasn't there for him...

      And Wlad was poisoned when he fought Brester how about that?

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      • andrewa1
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        #43
        Originally posted by yoz
        Resume wise, Tyson.

        H2H, its close.
        Actually, its opposite. H2H, prime Wlad easy. Tyson struggled against tall heavy opponents. He labored to a fairly close victory at his very peak against Tony Tucker. Tucker is shorter, 20 pounds lighter, less powerful, and less skilled and disciplined a fighter than prime Wlad, but otherwise a very similar fighter. Its about as likely that Tyson could beat Wlad as it is Carl Lewis could outrun Usain Bolt, the sport has evolved.

        Resume wise, its close. If Wlad beats Povetkin and a few more, gets the second most successful consecutive title defenses all time and most overall successful title defense all time, as is likely, Wlad will go past him.

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        • andrewa1
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          #44
          Originally posted by GRboxing
          Even Wlad's daddy Corrie wouldn't last 3 rounds with Tyson
          Yeah that's why Tyson dodged Sanders in the early 2000's. Tyson dodged lefties. Sanders would have killed Tyson. Peter too.

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          • andrewa1
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            #45
            Originally posted by pigsfly
            I'm gonna pick out just ONE of those guys that i named on tysons resume (that puts him leaps and bounds above wlad) since you say they aren't better wins.

            tony tucker

            one of wlads best wins is tony thompson.

            how is tony thompson better then tony tucker? tony thompson always comes into the ring fat and out of shape.


            matter fact which one of these guys, David Haye, Ruslan Chagaev, Lamon Brewster (who ko'd him before wlad fought him a 2nd time when he was shot) Sultan Ibragimov, Chris Byrd, Tony Thompson. are better then tony tucker?


            not a single one of these guys were better then tony tucker. you guys don't know who tony tucker was (or the others i mentioned) thats why you say such silly things like "the resumes are close" or "how does these guys make tyson head and shoulders above wlad" I'm gonna show you how right now.........


            tony tucker has wins over Jimmy Young, buster Douglas, Oliver McCall (actually after he beat McCall McCall then went on to ko lewis) a faded old tony tucker went the distance with a prime lenox lewis. he also went the distance with a prime tyson.

            in the lewis fight he actually gave lewis some problems. lenox had to dig deep to win that fight (and this was a faded tucker) he fought very well in that fight for his age against a prime lewis.

            a prime tucker was a 6'6 wrecking machine. what win on wlads resume is better then A prime tucker? and thats only one guy that a mentioned out of the bunch.

            you see this is the problem with you guys.........you have no clue about other fighters other then wlad and vitali...................tysons resume is leaps and bounds over wlads. it's not even close.
            Just saw this. You really don't have a clue. Tony Tucker is comparable to a less threatening Tony Thompson. Same height (6'5, not 6'6), good boxers with good chins without a meaningful loss prior to meeting their conqueror, and having beaten good but not great competition. Main difference is Thompson is a lefty, much more awkward to fight than a right handed boxer. Thompson would kill Tucker, prime to prime. And Tyson struggled with Tucker much more than Wlad struggled with Thompson. I agree though, that was arguably Tyson's best win, which helps prove your belief in Tyson's superiority completely wrong.

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #46
              Originally posted by Szef99
              Of course there are thousands of excuses when it comes to Tyson losing to Douglas....He was unmotivated, his pigeon died, Cuz wasn't there for him...

              And Wlad was poisoned when he fought Brester how about that?

              So are you saying douglas beats mike everyday of the week,,, do you really think that was mike's best effort,,,

              wlad was coming off his ko loss to sanders,, he should have been in killer mode vs brewster but got ktfo again...
              did mike get ktfo vs tillman stewart, or ruddock,, the fights after douglas

              douglas beating tyson is the biggest upset in the history of sports,, not boxing but all of sports,,,, people dont even know who the hell wlad or sanders or brewster is....
              Originally posted by andrewa1
              Yeah that's why Tyson dodged Sanders in the early 2000's. Tyson dodged lefties. Sanders would have killed Tyson. Peter too.
              tyson dodged sanders in the 2000's,,,, OMG quit posting,,,, for real quit posting,, that is about the most ******ed thing i have ever seen on NSB,,, its like saying roy jones dodged andre ward or kessler, or froch,,,
              Please just read posts, dont post yourself,,,

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                #47
                Originally posted by andrewa1
                Just saw this. You really don't have a clue. Tony Tucker is comparable to a less threatening Tony Thompson. Same height (6'5, not 6'6), good boxers with good chins without a meaningful loss prior to meeting their conqueror, and having beaten good but not great competition. Main difference is Thompson is a lefty, much more awkward to fight than a right handed boxer. Thompson would kill Tucker, prime to prime. And Tyson struggled with Tucker much more than Wlad struggled with Thompson. I agree though, that was arguably Tyson's best win, which helps prove your belief in Tyson's superiority completely wrong.
                Tucker and Thompson aren't comparable at all, they have different styles, Tucker is a lot faster both in foot speed and hand speed, Tucker has more power etc.
                Last edited by Jam Jars; 08-12-2013, 09:00 PM.

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                • Mike Tyson77
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                  #48
                  These are my top 2 favorite fighters. Im just gonna stay outta this one right now. They are both great champions who ruled the heavyweight divison with an iron fist.

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                  • andrewa1
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    So are you saying douglas beats mike everyday of the week,,, do you really think that was mike's best effort,,,

                    wlad was coming off his ko loss to sanders,, he should have been in killer mode vs brewster but got ktfo again...
                    did mike get ktfo vs tillman stewart, or ruddock,, the fights after douglas

                    douglas beating tyson is the biggest upset in the history of sports,, not boxing but all of sports,,,, people dont even know who the hell wlad or sanders or brewster is....


                    tyson dodged sanders in the 2000's,,,, OMG quit posting,,,, for real quit posting,, that is about the most ******ed thing i have ever seen on NSB,,, its like saying roy jones dodged andre ward or kessler, or froch,,,
                    Please just read posts, dont post yourself,,,
                    Dude. Until you grow a brain, you have no business telling anyone not to post. Seriously, you don't have two brain cells to rub together. Look up his history moron, Tyson never fought a leftie. Sanders was dodged by Tyson and most contenders back in that era, cause he was a dangerous southpaw who wasn't with team King. Learn boxing history moron, but then I guess you need two brain cells in order to do that.

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                    • andrewa1
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Own3d
                      Tucker and Thompson aren't comparable at all, they have different styles, Tucker is a lot faster both in foot speed and hand speed, Tucker has more power etc.
                      Didn't say they were the same. Said they were comparable. For the attributes I noted. Bottom line, Thompson was better, and got crushed by Wlad, as opposed to Tucker who lost a fairly close one to Tyson.

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