Wilfredo Gómez vs. Carlos Zárate Clip

[Exciterx30]

I think that's right on the spot. I had it 57 - 57 from round 2 to 7, which goes to show that, indeed, Gomez was holding his own quite nicely. It definately wasn't the blowout some people thought it was, but then again, none of Sanchez's fights were.

Do you have the fight? I've been dying to comment on one specific moment of it.

Yes, I have that fight. By the way, I agree with what you say about Salvador's fights. With the exception of Danny López, other premier fighters gave him some trouble. However, Chava's tenacity and skill got him the wins. Yesterday, I watched Chava vs. Rubén Castillo and scored it 143-142 for Salvador. I had it 133-133 and Chava won the last round to get the decision.

[machotime]

Yes, I have thet fight. By the way, I agree with what you say about Salvador's fights. With the exce[tion of Danny López, other premier fighters gave him some trouble. However, Chava's tenacity and skill got him the wins. Yesterday, I watched Chava vs. Rubén Castillo and scored it 143-142 for Salvador. I had it 133-133 and Chava won the last round to get the decision.

Where did you get the Chava fights?

[Exciterx30]

I think that Gomez would have regrouped and brought a different game plan, yeah sometimes his pride or confidence got the best of him and did not work in his favor, but I dont think that Gomez would fight the same fight. Either way, it would have been a great rematch.

I think that a prime Gómez would have defeated Nelson and would have destroyed Alfredo Layne, but I have doubts about Salvador. Still, a great "what if" rematch.

[machotime]

I think that a prime Gómez would have defeated Nelson and would have destroyed Alfredo Layne, but I have doubts about Salvador. Still, a great "what if" rematch.

Alfredo Layne had no chance against prime gomez, Nelson was very young and fresh, Gomez tired out very quickly. Neither of those could have beat him at 122 anyway. But I agree with the Sal Sanchez analysis, that is why I wished that there was a rematch.

[Exciterx30]

Alfredo Layne had no chance against prime gomez, Nelson was very young and fresh, Gomez tired out very quickly. Neither of those could have beat him at 122 anyway. But I agree with the Sal Sanchez analysis, that is why I wished that there was a rematch.

I'll even say that Gómez was playing with Alfredo Layne, until the 8th round knockdown. Still, I had Gómez ahead 76-75 through 8 rounds.

[morancito]

Yes, I have that fight. By the way, I agree with what you say about Salvador's fights. With the exception of Danny López, other premier fighters gave him some trouble. However, Chava's tenacity and skill got him the wins. Yesterday, I watched Chava vs. Rubén Castillo and scored it 143-142 for Salvador. I had it 133-133 and Chava won the last round to get the decision.

I honestly think Chava always boxed down to the skill of the opponent in turn. I know I'm not alone in that assumption. Sal used to piss his fans off, but especially his trainer (whose name I don't remember) by not boxing at the top of his skill every time.

Watch the fight again and see if you notice this: in the 8th round, during Chava's last barrage of punches, there's this one textbook, desperation left hook that Gomez lands ever so clearly right on Sal's chin. Now, outside of Sandy Saddler, Gomez might be the single hardest puncher ever, pound for pound, in the lower divisions. And I'm telling you, that hook landed right on the spot. That single punch tells me that, besides his incredible all around ability, Chava had a chin for the ages.

Which also leads me to think that he would have been more than competitive vs. Arguello at 130, but that's a whole different story.

[Exciterx30]

I honestly think Chava always boxed down to the skill of the opponent in turn. I know I'm not alone in that assumption. Sal used to piss his fans off, but especially his trainer (whose name I don't remember) by not boxing at the top of his skill every time.

Watch the fight again and see if you notice this: in the 8th round, during Chava's last barrage of punches, there's this one textbook, desperation left hook that Gomez lands ever so clearly right on Sal's chin. Now, outside of Sandy Saddler, Gomez might be the single hardest puncher ever, pound for pound, in the lower divisions. And I'm telling you, that hook landed right on the spot. That single punch tells me that, besides his incredible all around ability, Chava had a chin for the ages.

Which also leads me to think that he would have been more than competitive vs. Arguello at 130, but that's a whole different story.

Do you remember what Chava said in the post-fight interview by Carlos Palomino? Palomino asked Chava about Wilfredo's punch. I'll try to quote from memory.

"Efectivamente. Nunca me lastimó, pero inmediatamente se siente la pesadez de sus puños.

[machotime]

I honestly think Chava always boxed down to the skill of the opponent in turn. I know I'm not alone in that assumption. Sal used to piss his fans off, but especially his trainer (whose name I don't remember) by not boxing at the top of his skill every time.

Watch the fight again and see if you notice this: in the 8th round, during Chava's last barrage of punches, there's this one textbook, desperation left hook that Gomez lands ever so clearly right on Sal's chin. Now, outside of Sandy Saddler, Gomez might be the single hardest puncher ever, pound for pound, in the lower divisions. And I'm telling you, that hook landed right on the spot. That single punch tells me that, besides his incredible all around ability, Chava had a chin for the ages.

Which also leads me to think that he would have been more than competitive vs. Arguello at 130, but that's a whole different story.

Ill watch the fight again tommorrow and look for that left hook, but there were many other punches that he took that proved that his chin was top caliber.

[morancito]

Ill watch the fight again tommorrow and look for that left hook, but there were many other punches that he took that proved that his chin was top caliber.

I never saw him get connected as cleanly as that time. Not by Gomez anyway.

[morancito]

Do you remember what Chava said in the post-fight interview by Carlos Palomino? Palomino asked Chava about Wilfredo's punch. I'll try to quote from memory.

"Efectivamente. Nunca me lastimó, pero inmediatamente se siente la pesadez de sus puños.

I never saw the post fight interview. Carlos Palomino, another ring great.

I'm pretty sure Chava was hurt. Fighters just never seem to acknowledge it. And there was also some bad blood between those two.