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  • HWChampion
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    #71
    Originally posted by Verstyle
    Now the same fans who called him a coward are now accusing JMM of using steroids and demanding he be tested? what ever happened to "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS"??? I am completely lost,now commission testing isn't good enough? but drug testing is the reason Manny walked from the table with Floyd in 2010 and ya'll backed him up for it?
    You type in such an uneducated manner.

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    • sampsonsimpson
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      #72
      Originally posted by ComicDon
      So they agree to change the weight of the fight threedays before the fight and you who claims to be a real boxing fan will say this isn't considered missing weight.

      Just face it Floyd missed weight they agreeded to weight to a weight limit 10 weeks before the fight but since Floyd couldn't make the weight they changed the rules just three days before the fight so Floyd would't get punished by the commision. He still payed Marquez for missing weight, the originally agreeded upon weight, not no bull**** weight Floyd pull out his behind at the last minute.

      Simply put Floyd missed the contracted weight limit, he got a pass on it by the commision because he notified them, not even on time however, about not being able to make weight.
      cmon son ... he could have lost two pounds in three days, he didnt miss a thing

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      • GRboxing
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        #73
        It's amazing that Pac was the one who walked from the fight and sued instead of fighting. Yet Floyd was the one who was the coward?

        Makes no sense.

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        • mrpizza-nd_beer
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          #74
          Who was Floyd at that time to make demands on Pac? Pac was regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world. He had awards left and right and was not only recognized in America but had fans in all corners of the earth. Hollywood was in to Manny Pacquiao. He was earning American millions and was a billionaire in his peso Philippines.

          Why the fck would someone like Pac kneel before Zod, I mean Floyd? Why would someone who was as proud as Pac of his accomplishments give way to Floyd and his family of thugs who ruined his hard earned reputation just because he was an Asian boxer doing great in America? Never mind that no one in boxing history has asked what Floyd was asking Pac to do. No one! Pac compromising to Floyd's capricious demands was enough proof he really wanted to fight. Whereas Floyd came out with changing and increasing demands over time.

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          • waxfondler
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            #75
            Originally posted by Verstyle
            Now the same fans who called him a coward are now accusing JMM of using steroids and demanding he be tested? what ever happened to "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS"??? I am completely lost,now commission testing isn't good enough? but drug testing is the reason Manny walked from the table with Floyd in 2010 and ya'll backed him up for it?
            simple. team mayweather's accusations were baseless. pac's performances or physique wasnt unnatural or superhuman. all this PED nonsense arose after cotto & hatton.... pac's physique changed gradually as he worked his way up. and he always had great conditioning. many people claimed cotto was "damaged goods", so what was so surprising that pac whooped him? wasnt hatton "ruined by floyd" as well?? so what was so impressive or demonstrative of PED use? ariza shakes? c'mon. those accusations were CLEARLY a tactic to derail pac's career and deflect the possible fight.

            jmm, on the other hand, hires a KNOWN drug peddler. then shows up looking like the mexican hulk.... eats pac's punches like skittles.... and puts pac to sleep..... jmm's physique alone made alot of people scratch their heads. who bulks up like that at this age and stage of their career? imagine if b-hop showed up looking like jeff lacy for his next fight? wouldnt you be a little curious????? either way, pac STILL fought jmm (had no choice). even with all those suspect "signs" in the jmm camp.

            for the record, i would never accuse without proof. so as far as jmm goes, ive seen my friends bulk up naturally doing crossfit... so if memo focused on strength & explosiveness, it makes complete sense jmm's physique would change. but im not gonna lie, initially, i was like whoa....

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #76
              Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
              Who was Floyd at that time to make demands on Pac? Pac was regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world. He had awards left and right and was not only recognized in America but had fans in all corners of the earth. Hollywood was in to Manny Pacquiao. He was earning American millions and was a billionaire in his peso Philippines.

              Why the fck would someone like Pac kneel before Zod, I mean Floyd? Why would someone who was as proud as Pac of his accomplishments give way to Floyd and his family of thugs who ruined his hard earned reputation just because he was an Asian boxer doing great in America? Never mind that no one in boxing history has asked what Floyd was asking Pac to do. No one! Pac compromising to Floyd's capricious demands was enough proof he really wanted to fight. Whereas Floyd came out with changing and increasing demands over time.
              when you are the smaller draw you make concessions to fight the bigger star. when you don't it means you don't want to fight.

              JMM, tim, canelo, floyd, shane, hatton, holyfield (bigger star than manny) etc etc have all done this. Manny is no different. His FOTD, FOTY, sure HOF status or wins at 126 etc have no bearing on a business negotiation in 2009.

              He isn't special. He treats his opponents the same way floyd treats him. How can that possibly bother you?

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              • BoxingIsGreat
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                #77
                Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
                Who was Floyd at that time to make demands on Pac? Pac was regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world. He had awards left and right and was not only recognized in America but had fans in all corners of the earth. Hollywood was in to Manny Pacquiao. He was earning American millions and was a billionaire in his peso Philippines.

                Why the fck would someone like Pac kneel before Zod, I mean Floyd? Why would someone who was as proud as Pac of his accomplishments give way to Floyd and his family of thugs who ruined his hard earned reputation just because he was an Asian boxer doing great in America? Never mind that no one in boxing history has asked what Floyd was asking Pac to do. No one! Pac compromising to Floyd's capricious demands was enough proof he really wanted to fight. Whereas Floyd came out with changing and increasing demands over time.
                Go fuc yourself, you dimwit.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by waxfondler
                  simple. team mayweather's accusations were baseless. pac's performances or physique wasnt unnatural or superhuman. all this PED nonsense arose after cotto & hatton.... pac's physique changed gradually as he worked his way up. and he always had great conditioning. many people claimed cotto was "damaged goods", so what was so surprising that pac whooped him? wasnt hatton "ruined by floyd" as well?? so what was so impressive or demonstrative of PED use? ariza shakes? c'mon. those accusations were CLEARLY a tactic to derail pac's career and deflect the possible fight.

                  jmm, on the other hand, hires a KNOWN drug peddler. then shows up looking like the mexican hulk.... eats pac's punches like skittles.... and puts pac to sleep..... jmm's physique alone made alot of people scratch their heads. who bulks up like that at this age and stage of their career? imagine if b-hop showed up looking like jeff lacy for his next fight? wouldnt you be a little curious????? either way, pac STILL fought jmm (had no choice). even with all those suspect "signs" in the jmm camp.

                  for the record, i would never accuse without proof. so as far as jmm goes, ive seen my friends bulk up naturally doing crossfit... so if memo focused on strength & explosiveness, it makes complete sense jmm's physique would change. but im not gonna lie, initially, i was like whoa....
                  wax-manny KTFO hatton floyd sr says he's on PED's. JMM KTFO Manny, fringe Manny fans say JMM is on PED's. JMM has memo, manny has Ariza. The defense can't be ariza isn't as bad as memo. Thats as crazy as ben johnsonn saying well I wasn't on that steroid I was on this one.

                  there is an equal standard of proof being applied. you can't justify one and not the other.

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                  • waxfondler
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
                    wax-manny KTFO hatton floyd sr says he's on PED's. JMM KTFO Manny, fringe Manny fans say JMM is on PED's. JMM has memo, manny has Ariza. The defense can't be ariza isn't as bad as memo. Thats as crazy as ben johnsonn saying well I wasn't on that steroid I was on this one.

                    there is an equal standard of proof being applied. you can't justify one and not the other.
                    manny KO hatton = hatton KO'd by floyd previously & wobbled by collazo. hatton not known to be granite-chinned anyway.
                    jmm KO pac = jmm RARELY hurt pac previously. suddenly puts him to sleep. bigger punchers couldnt replicate that. although i credit that KO to planning & pac's recklessness.

                    memo = on record to be tied with PEDs.
                    ariza = speculation, im not an ariza historian but i never read SOLID proof linking him to supplying.

                    equal standard of proof is a stretch, IMO. but i see your angle.

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