Why when Floyd demanded testing he was a coward?

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  • jqSide
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    #61
    Originally posted by ComicDon
    Floyd isn't a coward, he just didn't want to get knocked out by Manny. It's perfectly fine for one to care about their health.

    Also Manny agreeded to the drug testing with a 14 day cut off period the first go round. Floyd is the one who walked and said no fight but turned around and fought Mosley with a 19 day caught period.
    There's nothing more to say.

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    • megadeth
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      #62
      Originally posted by ComicDon
      Say what? According to whom that Manny is the B side of the fight because from where I stand neither man has a right to that claim. But if one did it would have been Manny since he was regarded as the best fighter in the world at the time, and selling millions on Pay Per View.
      Manny was the " best fighter in the world" only because of Floyds retirement. Floyd was the best fighter in the world when he fought ODH, but still the B side. Floyd was still the bigger draw.

      Originally posted by ComicDon
      Also you call me a Manny fan but aren't you just as much as a Floyd fan. The funny thing is you don't even understand what's going on, we both have picked a side to agree with but you seem to believe since I chose opposite of you I'm not a "real boxing fan", whatever that means.
      I am a fan of Floyd skills an boxing. Not him as a man or icon or any of that jazz. There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between us my friend. I am using facts to tell my story and to show the right AND wrong on both sides. You are using opinion, rumor, and siding with "your fighter" even when he contradicts himself, you still don't stand up and make excuses for him. If Floyd asks for tests, it's a duck. If Pac asks for test AFTER he has already made every excuse in the wold why he can't, all you hear is deflection and crickets. Manny looks like superman and hurts bigger fighters and he's not on anything, Floyd looks like the same Floyd from previous weights and does SOME OSDT, yet Floyd should be suspected, not Manny. Pac still wants 50/50 after he is clearly the lesser draw? Floyds ducking.
      Pac/Arum makes fighters sign w/ Top Rank to get a fight with him, it's reasonable. Floyd suggests the same, more roadblocks.


      Originally posted by ComicDon
      What is a real boxing fight, I watch every show that comes on, I watch fights from the past during the 60's on up and I buy majority of ppv events. You don't seem to have much sense.
      A real boxing fan enjoys BOXING. He might have their favorite fighters, but the will not ignore logic and reality to protect that boxers reputation or image. That's a fanboy. The way that you are siding w/Pac on everything, while demo nixing Floyd makes me question what category you belong to.

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      • megadeth
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        #63
        Originally posted by ComicDon
        So they agree to change the weight of the fight threedays before the fight and you who claims to be a real boxing fan will say this isn't considered missing weight.

        Just face it Floyd missed weight they agreeded to weight to a weight limit 10 weeks before the fight but since Floyd couldn't make the weight they changed the rules just three days before the fight so Floyd would't get punished by the commision. He still payed Marquez for missing weight, the originally agreeded upon weight, not no bull**** weight Floyd pull out his behind at the last minute.

        Simply put Floyd missed the contracted weight limit, he got a pass on it by the commision because he notified them, not even on time however, about not being able to make weight.
        You are showing your fanboydom. Tell me how does it matters if it was 10 weeks, 3 days, 15 mins before weigh in? THE CONTRACT WAS CHANGED AND AGREED TO! Cotto didn't want to put his belt on the line at a catchweight, but was pressured to. Does the fact the he didn't want to, to that it was at a catchweight change the fact that he lost it? NO!

        Really? You've never heard of RENEGOTIATING A CONTRACT?
        Let me give you an example that HOPEFULLY, you will understand.
        Google plans a merger with a smaller company. All the contracts are signed, but later, the company realized it can't meet the all of terms. They offer to pay a penalty to Google for not meeting the terms, to alter the terms and to continue with the deal. Google agrees and they both sign the RENEGOTIATION. After the new contracts are signed, is either party still held to the previous contract? Should the company be penalized for not meeting the original terms. My answer and I'm sure most of the rest of the worlds would be "NO". Tell me, what is the answer in Pac Fanboy world?

        By the way, Pac have been over the legal weight limits, IN TWO TITLE FIGHTS, so who was he to demand this in the first place?

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        • megadeth
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          #64
          Originally posted by ComicDon
          Floyd isn't a coward, he just didn't want to get knocked out by Manny. It's perfectly fine for one to care about their health..
          So Marquez and Morales can not only avoid Getting knocked out, but clearly outbox Manny, but Floyd who is a far better boxer, w/much better defense is worried about Pac KO'ng him? Got it!

          Originally posted by ComicDon
          Also Manny agreeded to the drug testing with a 14 day cut off period the first go round. Floyd is the one who walked and said no fight but turned around and fought Mosley with a 19 day caught period.
          No wonder your siding w/Pac. It's because you're wrong on all the facts(or lying). Pac DID NOT accept 14 days on the first go around. THAT IS WHY THE FIGHT DIDN'T HAPPEN! He waited until Floyd said the offer was off the table, THEN HE ACCEPTED! If you'd like, I can post the link where Arum says "WE ARE WALKING AWAY". And there was NO cutoff period in the Mosley fight. That is the idea of "random", you don't know when it will end, up to the fight. It's called a D-E-T-E-R-R-E-N-T. Incredible!!! It's like teaching kindergarten.

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          • 285Kid
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            #65

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            • maguirre
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              #66
              Floyd's duckage of Pacquiao is one of the most embarrassing ducks in the annals of boxing history. You can just imagine reading some highlights of it in a book. I could see a group of people in a conference room haggling in a contentious atmosphere. There was Arum, Weinstein the mediator and a PED expert all, including Hoya and Scaefer, trying to convince Floyd that what Pacquiao proposed was good enough and it's okay to go ahead with the fight. Just imagine how scared Floyd was.
              Last edited by maguirre; 08-07-2013, 03:18 AM.

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              • junior gong
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                #67
                Originally posted by Verstyle
                Now the same fans who called him a coward are now accusing JMM of using steroids and demanding he be tested? what ever happened to "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS"??? I am completely lost,now commission testing isn't good enough? but drug testing is the reason Manny walked from the table with Floyd in 2010 and ya'll backed him up for it?
                Do you ever stop whining? Floyd dipped out. Get over it.

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                • Mrsantiago
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by JQside
                  Pac disagreed with Floyd's brand of testing initially, but he agreed eventually in the second negotiation, at which point Floyd was saying he's going a long vacation. Then terms changed and although testing was no longer an issue, Floyd kept saying it was. There's no reason on earth why the fight don't happen if you really want it. Disagreements happen in negotiations. The world don't end after the first negotiations. If it failed the first time, you can always have a second one, or a third and so on.
                  Pacman never agreed to any testing and he said he was afraid of needles lol also telling the media you agreed and not signing the contract are two different things people including myself dont like floyd as a person but he agreed to all of pacs ridiculous demands he only had one and they turned it down the first time and the second time pac turned it down over 50 - 50 which was mayweathers second demand only two demands to multiple demands on pac mans behalf again im sure its not pac he fights who the match makers pick but they didnt pick floyd

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                  • KickAzz
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                    #69
                    Fiddy straight up said Floyd was ducking Pac... Fiddy was Cherrypicker gay lover for a bit there

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                    • GRboxing
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by HanzGruber
                      Cause they're hypocrites
                      This. Pac fans are the worst fans in boxing history.

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