The Lucas Matthysse versus Vivian Harris fight is one of the most

[Frank Ducketts]

Couldn't disagree more with your assessment of Matthysse. For one thing, he's not the same fighter. Back then Matthysse was mostly just a stalker who would wear the other figher down, now he sets traps and looks for holes to exploit.

He's also physically bigger, regularly weighing over 160 fight night. He's a stronger fighter now.

Also, before he fought a few of the top ranked fighters, Matthysse was just a little awe struck by top level competition. Now he knows he belongs, and so he pushes harder to get the opposition out of there.

Zab Judah would never go the distance against the Matthysse that we have all witnessed the past several fights.

Danny Garcia will not see the final bell either.

He was doing the same thing that he was doing against Harris that he did to Peterson. My bottom line point is that you can land the jab and straight right hand on Matthysse. It's always tricky, but if you set Matthysse up, you can land that combo. You also have to be able to take a decent shot too.

[WarMaidana]

true that is pretty bad

[Tom Cruise]

He was doing the same thing that he was doing against Harris that he did to Peterson. My bottom line point is that you can land the jab and straight right hand on Matthysse. It's always tricky, but if you set Matthysse up, you can land that combo. You also have to be able to take a decent shot too.

You can land on Matthysse, but the question is can you land often and hard enough to stop him landing his own shots on you?

Because if he starts land on you he will either take you out, or wear you down. There really aren't any fighters in and around the JWW weightclass outside of Mayweather who have to ability to nullify the kind of offence that Matthysse has.

So far only two guys have survived the distance and both did so by running and spoiling as much as possible before what should have been quite clear decision losses.

[Frank Ducketts]

You can land on Matthysse, but the question is can you land often and hard enough to stop him landing his own shots on you?

Because if he starts land on you he will either take you out, or wear you down. There really aren't any fighters in and around the JWW weightclass outside of Mayweather who have to ability to nullify the kind of offence that Matthysse has.

So far only two guys have survived the distance and both did so by running and spoiling as much as possible before what should have been quite clear decision losses.

Matthysse has not fought enough top jww contenders with power for you to post your third sentence. Judah and Alexander boxed Matthysse. They didn't run. They also didn't fight Matthysse's fight. Matthysse will find out soon why you need a jab in this game.

[Hougigo]

hate it or love it, it's a bad stoppage

[Tom Cruise]

Matthysse has not fought enough top jww contenders with power for you to post your third sentence. Judah and Alexander boxed Matthysse. They didn't run. They also didn't fight Matthysse's fight. Matthysse will find out soon why you need a jab in this game.

He has a jab, its a range finder for his other punches but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Who is really a banger at 140lbs though? Please don't say Garcia, he has good power at best. LM hasn't shown a bad chin in any of his fights (actually he's taken some pretty good shots) so we cant say he has a bad chin. Also is a guy with power really going to hurt Matthysse more than he hurts them?

Alexander and Judah had the best game plan to fight LM but he beat them up pretty bad at times, and yes they both ran and both spoiled in the second half of their fights. The holding from Alexander was particularly bad.

Decent unpredictable movement in the mold of Mayweather or Rigo would be the best style to counter Matts Imo. Hard counters and quick lead hands to offset LM's offensive rhythm and a hell of a chin to take a shot when he eventually catches you. But it will take fighters of the quality of Mayweather and Rigo to pull it off. The Danny Garcia's of this world are simply not on that level...

Sorry for typos/grammar errors I'm posting from phone

[Tom Cruise]

Oh and i agree this was a horrible stoppage. Harris was doing perfectly well in the round and git hit with a couple shots. No grounds to stop the fight...

[mrbigshot]

ha why is everyone commiting on this video if anyone had any knowledge of lucas before he started his knock out run you would know that this was lucas first high profile fight and it was very questionable about the ref stopping it

yes lucas took some damage but i believe he has improved massively he sets his punchers up better he throws alot more feights and the jab is a range finder but he does throw alot of them mainly to blind the opponent so he can land the power punch behhind it

the body punches are set up better and he seems to have a bigger gas tank and a better boxing brain! he his never going to be a suger ray leonard but he has started to be a bit more techincal but its the aggression and the cutting off the ring and the right distance which has been impressive

garcia does alot of things well but he his easy to hit and i dont believe wide punching from garcia with his left hook hope shot will be the answer lucas will straighter and land his more crisp and powerful punches i see him busting up garcia towards a mid to late stoppage

[Frank Ducketts]

He has a jab, its a range finder for his other punches but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Who is really a banger at 140lbs though? Please don't say Garcia, he has good power at best. LM hasn't shown a bad chin in any of his fights (actually he's taken some pretty good shots) so we cant say he has a bad chin. Also is a guy with power really going to hurt Matthysse more than he hurts them?

Alexander and Judah had the best game plan to fight LM but he beat them up pretty bad at times, and yes they both ran and both spoiled in the second half of their fights. The holding from Alexander was particularly bad.

Decent unpredictable movement in the mold of Mayweather or Rigo would be the best style to counter Matts Imo. Hard counters and quick lead hands to offset LM's offensive rhythm and a hell of a chin to take a shot when he eventually catches you. But it will take fighters of the quality of Mayweather and Rigo to pull it off. The Danny Garcia's of this world are simply not on that level...

Sorry for typos/grammar errors I'm posting from phone

Matthysse has no jab, and that's not a negative. He has no jab. Second, however you want to view the Judah and Devon losses, Matthysse lost. Power is judgemental. Matthysse has power, but he usually breaks you down with more than one punch. Whether you think Danny has power or not, he can punch. He probably hits harder than anyone Matthysse has faced to date. Matthysse's chin to me is still up for questions.

[Frank Ducketts]

If you guys can judge Garcia on past fight, Matthysse can be judged by them too.