Should Froch vs. Groves be on PPV in the UK?

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  • LacedUp
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Nobody has heard from DeGale? Hasn't had any exposure??? He fights on terrestrial TV! The casual fan doesn't really care so much about the opponent. The point is that more eyes are on DeGale than Groves who is buried on PPV undercards.

    What does Denmark have to do with it? We're talking about the UK. It seems you're relating it to you instead of looking at the bigger picture.
    So fighting on channel 5 is now better than fighting on Sky? Let me think abou.. No. It's not. He might fight on terrestrial tv, and so what? I'm not talking about exposure as in nobody sees his fights, but as in they are all low profile fights nobody cares about. When Groves beat degale he beat the hype out of him as well.

    My point was, that even though I was in Denmark, and Degale was fighting there, I didn't even now about it. Now, do you now how many boxing events are made n Denmark each year? 4-5 max.

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      #52
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      So fighting on channel 5 is now better than fighting on Sky? Let me think abou.. No. It's not. He might fight on terrestrial tv, and so what? I'm not talking about exposure as in nobody sees his fights, but as in they are all low profile fights nobody cares about. When Groves beat degale he beat the hype out of him as well.

      My point was, that even though I was in Denmark, and Degale was fighting there, I didn't even now about it. Now, do you now how many boxing events are made n Denmark each year? 4-5 max.
      Better in what sense? You're looking at this too myopically. You need to think of the wider public and not just from your own perspective.

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      • Abstraction
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        #53
        Though Froch is known a little better in the UK, he is not exactly popular.

        99.9% of people don't know who Groves is.

        I reckon a good 95% of Boxingscene posters have never seen his fight.

        Is it a good fight? Potentially.

        Is it PPV worthy? No.

        Most likely get inflated numbers afterwards justifying it.

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          #54
          Was Froch/Ward PPV? How about Froch/Bute? Even Johnson and Mack had achieved more than Groves prior to fighting Carl.

          Do I think this fight should be on PPV...*** no.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Abstraction
            Though Froch is known a little better in the UK, he is not exactly popular.

            99.9% of people don't know who Groves is.

            I reckon a good 95% of Boxingscene posters have never seen his fight.

            Is it a good fight? Potentially.

            Is it PPV worthy? No.

            Most likely get inflated numbers afterwards justifying it.
            Great post. I agree entirely.

            Originally posted by komodo
            Was Froch/Ward PPV? How about Froch/Bute? Even Johnson and Mack had achieved more than Groves prior to fighting Carl.

            Do I think this fight should be on PPV...*** no.
            Nope, and they were bigger fights. Groves has fought nobodies since DeGale and in no way warrants a headline spot on a PPV bill.

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            • yoz
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              #56
              If anyone from MatchRoom browses this site, the fans have spoken! 80% are opposed to the idea of Froch-Groves being on PPV.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Abstraction
                Though Froch is known a little better in the UK, he is not exactly popular.

                99.9% of people don't know who Groves is.

                I reckon a good 95% of Boxingscene posters have never seen his fight.

                Is it a good fight? Potentially.

                Is it PPV worthy? No.

                Most likely get inflated numbers afterwards justifying it.
                That is just ridiculous.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by yoz
                  Nope, and they were bigger fights. Groves has fought nobodies since DeGale and in no way warrants a headline spot on a PPV bill.
                  They weren't really though. The Ward fight, yes. of course it was. But Froch is a superstar now, he was still an unknown quantity back then having wasted years of his careers fighting for Hennessey. An old johnson a better fight than a prime domestic rival? I don't think so. Mack? No, and that's a resounding no. Bute could have been PPV, but that was Froch's coming out party.

                  Froch is a PPV fighter now. Simple as that.-

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                  • G22
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                    #59
                    All I know is that it should be free to those of us in the US. Much like our PPVs are often shown for free over there.
                    No Big Amercian PPV's are free over here. They are either on boxnation or sky sports which are subscription based or primetime which is PPV

                    In regards to Groves vs Froch being PPV worthy, the numbers will tell. Kessler and Froch clearly justifed it but this fight will fall short of that despite both fighters being British. If Groves lost and lost badly then there will be alot of people looking back with hindsight saying it should have never been PPV in the 1st place. The same people who thought it was worthy by purchasing it

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