Should Froch vs. Groves be on PPV in the UK?

[LacedUp]

You think there's enough general intrigue for this to be a PPV fight?

Gotta disagree with you on that one buddy.

That's fine. I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong, but if I was a promoter I would stick it on PPV no doubt.

Froch is always good value, so you know you won't get a stinker like Haye-Harrison. Froch is kind of britains favourite son at the moment, and I think people will be into Groves as well.

So I guess we'll have to see whether or not it's a success. Has it even been confirmed as PPV yet?

[LacedUp]

Groves isn't really that known in the UK though.

He's not a household name, but he has had some good exposure in his fights on the undercards of Haye and Froch as well as his fight with DeGale that wasn't only a PPV fight, but was also shown live on Times Sq.

So people know of him.

[yoz]

That's fine. I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong, but if I was a promoter I would stick it on PPV no doubt.

Froch is always good value, so you know you won't get a stinker like Haye-Harrison. Froch is kind of britains favourite son at the moment, and I think people will be into Groves as well.

So I guess we'll have to see whether or not it's a success. Has it even been confirmed as PPV yet?

Nope. Eddie Hearn and Sky are going to gauge demand before making the decision.

[P4P_No1]

That's fine. I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong, but if I was a promoter I would stick it on PPV no doubt.

Froch is always good value, so you know you won't get a stinker like Haye-Harrison. Froch is kind of britains favourite son at the moment, and I think people will be into Groves as well.

So I guess we'll have to see whether or not it's a success. Has it even been confirmed as PPV yet?

I'm not sure to be fair. I've read some places its PPV and others its not so no idea really.

I agree on the Froch thing but I just don't think people know enough about Groves to make it a PPV event.

While Haye-Harrison was a stinker both were much bigger names than Groves. Even though I didn't agree with it being PPV (I don't really agree with the whole PPV thing generally but that's another discussion) I can see the business sense behind it seeing as both were big names and there had long been tension (and people were aware of it) for some time.

As I said I don't think enough people know about Groves for it to be a PPV event.

[NEETzsche]

i certainly don't plan to buy it

[D-MiZe]

As boxing fans, we should never adopt the business perspective.

Who the fuck are you to set parameters for what we're discussing in this thread anyhow?

The quality of that fight only became evident after the fight had ended, hindsight isn't needed for creating a PPV card. All that needs to be done is match up domestic rivals - it's that simple. Obviously, you can match a fighter against better competition, just depends on where they're at in their career progression.

Froch-Groves with either Brook-Senchenko or Burns-Beltran would've been acceptable. As is though, they'd rather spread it thin because they know they can get away with it.

[LacedUp]

As boxing fans, we should never adopt the business perspective.

Who the fuck are you to set parameters for what we're discussing in this thread anyhow?

The quality of that fight only became evident after the fight had ended, hindsight isn't needed for creating a PPV card. All that needs to be done is match up domestic rivals - it's that simple. Obviously, you can match a fighter against better competition, just depends on where they're at in their career progression.

Froch-Groves with either Brook-Senchenko or Burns-Beltran would've been acceptable. As is though, they'd rather spread it thin because they know they can get away with it.

The question was "should it be" on PPV. Now, as every other fan will tell you, nothing should be on PPV. So the question was then, is it worthy of PPV? Yes, from a business perspective, which I was talking about, I think it is PPV worthy.

So who the fuck are you to decide what perspective I see a question from?

I think they'll probably stick a bellew fight on there, seeing as Trout and Stevenson will fight anyhow. Add to that the usual suspects from Matchroom and you have a solid card.

[D-MiZe]

The question was "should it be" on PPV. Now, as every other fan will tell you, nothing should be on PPV. So the question was then, is it worthy of PPV? Yes, from a business perspective, which I was talking about, I think it is PPV worthy.

So who the fuck are you to decide what perspective I see a question from?

I think they'll probably stick a bellew fight on there, seeing as Trout and Stevenson will fight anyhow. Add to that the usual suspects from Matchroom and you have a solid card.

I'm adamant not every other fan will tell me that nothing should be on PPV. How do you think fighters get paid? I wouldn't mind spending £50 to see Mayweather-Pac in the ring.

Everyone in here was speaking personally, apart from you, who said that we were discussing from a business perspective. Thus why I'm asking you what the fuck you're saying.

So just by having a few names on the card it makes it solid? You're ignoring the fact of who they're fighting, 2 weeks out and they're matched against TBA... enter 4-53 Latvian who shares a similar record to the last several opponents of one of Britain's best amateurs. Which is a statement applicable to pretty much every good amateur that's turned over in the past few years.

It doesn't matter who's on it, it's all about who's against who.

'Mayweather, Pacquiao, Alvarez & W.Klitschko all on the same card'

Mayweather vs Curtis Woodhouse
Pacquiao vs Adil Anwar
Alvarez vs Rockin'
Klitschko vs Mads Larsen


I ain't even asking for King Kong vs Tyson Fury, fights like BJS-Ryder would suffice.

[LacedUp]

I'm adamant not every other fan will tell me that nothing should be on PPV. How do you think fighters get paid? I wouldn't mind spending £50 to see Mayweather-Pac in the ring.

Everyone in here was speaking personally, apart from you, who said that we were discussing from a business perspective. Thus why I'm asking you what the fuck you're saying.

So just by having a few names on the card it makes it solid? You're ignoring the fact of who they're fighting, 2 weeks out and they're matched against TBA... enter 4-53 Latvian who shares a similar record to the last several opponents of one of Britain's best amateurs. Which is a statement applicable to pretty much every good amateur that's turned over in the past few years.

It doesn't matter who's on it, it's all about who's against who.

'Mayweather, Pacquiao, Alvarez & W.Klitschko all on the same card'

Mayweather vs Curtis Woodhouse
Pacquiao vs Adil Anwar
Alvarez vs Rockin'
Klitschko vs Mads Larsen


I ain't even asking for King Kong vs Tyson Fury, fights like BJS-Ryder would suffice.

Sure, there are a lot of fights I wouldn't mind paying to see. In fact, most big fights I would probably pay to see. Not £50, but £15 sure.

However, that's because 1) it's part of my job and 2) I, like most others on this site, have a great interest in boxing. So if a PPV fight should take place or not, the worst place to ask is probably here with the vast majority being hardcore fans.

So of course I'm talking from a business sense, which was backed up by my post trying to justify a fight like Froch-Groves being on PPV. And don't forget, it's a double world title fight as well. And it's not like one fighter is a legend and one is crap. Both of these guys are top level (or close) fighters. Groves is a legitimate top 10 contender and Froch is the champion.

Yes I think it makes it solid for PPV to have a good list of names on it, because you pull in the different fan bases and gives a little bit of something to everyone. Say stick a Luke Campbell second fight on there, Bellew, Stalker, Smith and you have a good mix of good names against probably less than average opponents, but people would like to see it. And so would I.

[soul_survivor]

What do you reckon? Is Froch vs. Groves PPV (Sky Box Office) material?

Absolutely not, Froch is a PPV star but Groves is barely world class, what's his best win? A past it Johnson? Kenny Anderson? Degale? lol

This shouldn't be a PPV.