Pacquiao has been brutally KO'd and rebounded 3x now.

[Verstyle]

lol............

[BoxingGenius27]

Now what made you form this question?

[samouraï]

Pacquiao may very well come back from that KO just fine - after all, it's not like he got "beaten up", he got put to sleep. If he's not constantly doubting himself, that will go a long way. I suspect that much of a fighter's problem after being KO'd is in their head. It plants a seed of doubt and they become much more vulnerable.

Hell, even if Pacquiao's chin is "cracked", as a lot of broscientists like to say, I think he's still more than likely got the skill and physical ability to outbox Rios all night (after all, remember that Rios got outboxed by Alvarado for 12 rounds, who he at one point wobbled with a stiff jab and stopped in their previous outing). Rios doesn't have the speed, timing or 1-punch KO power to deliver a Marquez-esque knockout shot so if Pacquiao does get stopped it means he's truly fallen far from his former self. I don't expect that to happen though.

[BoxingGenius27]

no , thats not the reason behind that .. the reason floyd gets called a coward is becuase , based on his actions and past duckings , he is ....lol

its not that complicated really!

Sure, Floyd could've put in more work at JWW (Corely, Gatti, Bruseles) before moving up chasing DLH.

He also should've fought Cotto early 08. I wouldn't argue if someone else thru Williams in the equation along the way.

Outside of that, he's done nothing wrong.

[puga]

Sure, Floyd could've put in more work at JWW (Corely, Gatti, Bruseles) before moving up chasing DLH.

He also should've fought Cotto early 08. I wouldn't argue if someone else thru Williams in the equation along the way.

Outside of that, he's done nothing wrong.

youre right , floyd has done nothing wrong becuase lets face it , he ducked the right fights ....but him and his fans should'nt demand anymore respect than what he is getting ... he is getting what he deserves...

[Frank Ducketts]

Sure, Floyd could've put in more work at JWW (Corely, Gatti, Bruseles) before moving up chasing DLH.

He also should've fought Cotto early 08. I wouldn't argue if someone else thru Williams in the equation along the way.

Outside of that, he's done nothing wrong.

Do the research. This is not cutting it.

[BoxingGenius27]

Do the research. This is not cutting it.

Problem with that is, when you actually "live" through it, there's no research to do

[Frank Ducketts]

Problem with that is, when you actually "live" through it, there's no research to do

So what makes you think that he could've done more at 140, and that he should've fought Cotto?

[BoxingGenius27]

youre right , floyd has done nothing wrong becuase lets face it , he ducked the right fights ....but him and his fans should'nt demand anymore respect than what he is getting ... he is getting what he deserves...

He could've been more active early 08 in the WW division when it was at it's peak. Up until this year, sure, he could've been more active fighting more than once a year.

But you guys constantly say he ducks someone (i.e. Ortiz, Guerrero, Mosley, ect) then once he fights them, you guys jump to the next guy. It's impossible to please your fan base which is why he doesn't even try and does what he wants.

But with the Canelo fight looming in the Fall, I think we're onto something regarding Floyd becoming more active

[BoxingGenius27]

So what makes you think that he could've done more at 140, and that he should've fought Cotto?

Marquez, Ortiz all came after the plaster incident in 08.

Pre plasterman 2008, Cotto had the better JWW and WW resume. Unless someone can come up with a damn good argument, I really can't see why not.

Cotto 140:

Bazan
Maussa
Sosa - Floyd UD'd him. Cotto stopped him
N'dou
Pinto
Bailey
Corley - Floyd UD'd him. Cotto stopped him
Paulie
Torres
Arabian cat; forgot his name. He beat Cotto in the Olympics

Mayweather 140:

Corely
Bruseles
Gatti





Cotto 147 pre-plasterman:

Bronco
Judah
Mosley
Quintana
Urkal


Mayweather 147 pre-plasterman:

Baldomir
Judah
Hatton


At 147, Quintana's victory over Julio is just as good as Hatton's lone victory over Collazo. If you ask me who's the more proven WW between Quintana and Hatton and it's hands down Quintana without a doubt.

From there you have Judah/Baldomir vs Urkal/Judah/Mosley/Bronco... Sorry, Carlos Baldomir doesn't outweigh Mosley/Bronco and Urkal.


Hands down, pre plasterman, Cotto had the better JWW/WW resume's.

I can't debate what's happened post 2008 cause Cotto's never been the same; which is rather odd cause Cotto's been Floyd's toughest fight yet.

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