Looking back, where Ortiz and Guerrero even credible opponents for floyd???

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  • big_james10
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    #41
    Originally posted by Aztec Wanker
    Both these guys best wins (berto) git taken out impressively against a tough Gatekeeper at Ww. Karras did a better job then both these guys so there wins over berto where not even impressive if you think about it. Karass even best ayfin better then gurerro. Does this cement the claims that floyd is a cherry picker?
    In the eyes of people like you it does. In the eyes of people like you, Mayweather's best opponent is the one he hasn't fought. Once he fights and beats them, they are cherry picked opponents. Right now, Alvarez is the best opponent for Mayweather. After Mayweather beats him, he will become a cherrypicked opponent, just like Guererro, Cotto, Ortiz, Mosley and every other fighter he has fought since 2007. Hell, I am surprised that clowns like you haven't claimed that Oscar De La Hoya was a cherrypicked opponent.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Aztec Wanker
      Both these guys best wins (berto) git taken out impressively against a tough Gatekeeper at Ww. Karras did a better job then both these guys so there wins over berto where not even impressive if you think about it. Karass even best ayfin better then gurerro. Does this cement the claims that floyd is a cherry picker?
      Of course Mayweather is a cherrypicker. That's what he does. But I'm confident that Canelo will fold him in half with body shots and end the bogus career of Mayweather. Afterwards, Mayweather can be ****** for free because the huge paydays will no longer be there.

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        #43
        If Guerrerro fought any 140 or 147-pounder out there, including Garcia, Matthysse, Alexander, Khan, Peterson, Soto-Karass, Keith Thurman, Bradley, Pacquaio, or Marquez, he would either be favored to win or it would be considered an even money fight. As I stated, everyone is considered a cherrypick by Floyd after he defeats them.


        After he beats Alvarez, he will be considered cherry pick, especially when someone like Lara or another fighter comes along a couple of fights later and also beats him.

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          #44
          Originally posted by big_james10
          If Guerrerro fought any 140 or 147-pounder out there, including Garcia, Matthysse, Alexander, Khan, Peterson, Soto-Karass, Keith Thurman, Bradley, Pacquaio, or Marquez, he would either be favored to win or it would be considered an even money fight. As I stated, everyone is considered a cherrypick by Floyd after he defeats them.


          After he beats Alvarez, he will be considered cherry pick, especially when someone like Lara or another fighter comes along a couple of fights later and also beats him.
          He wont beat Canelo. I can promise you that.

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            #45
            Originally posted by big_james10
            If Guerrerro fought any 140 or 147-pounder out there, including Garcia, Matthysse, Alexander, Khan, Peterson, Soto-Karass, Keith Thurman, Bradley, Pacquaio, or Marquez, he would either be favored to win or it would be considered an even money fight. As I stated, everyone is considered a cherrypick by Floyd after he defeats them.


            After he beats Alvarez, he will be considered cherry pick, especially when someone like Lara or another fighter comes along a couple of fights later and also beats him.
            I'm not sure he'd be favored in a rematch vs Aydin lol. He's 50/50 with Soto Karass, he got outperformed by him in his only 2 ww wins

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              #46
              Originally posted by Aztec Wanker
              Both these guys best wins (berto) git taken out impressively against a tough Gatekeeper at Ww. Karras did a better job then both these guys so there wins over berto where not even impressive if you think about it. Karass even best ayfin better then gurerro. Does this cement the claims that floyd is a cherry picker?

              Some people were saying Floyd was gonna duck those fighters.Also Berto broke his shoulder in his fight with Karass.If it wasn`t for that injury,the outcome may have been different.

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                #47
                Originally posted by boxingfeind
                Some people were saying Floyd was gonna duck those fighters.Also Berto broke his shoulder in his fight with Karass.If it wasn`t for that injury,the outcome may have been different.
                who the fu-kk was saying he was ducking ortiz or guerrero? i remember everyone in the boxing world saying he was ducking pac. do you mean these were the next guys in line to duck and he didn't duck them so we should give him some sort of props for only ducking pac and not them?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                  Considering that if he hadn't fought them, the same people who discredit the wins would be on here talking about how he ducked them, I'd say that they were credible fights. Not legacy fights, but up and comers on hot streaks.
                  Floyd always in a no win situation. If he fights them his cherry picking, if he doesn't fight them his ducking them

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                    #49
                    If floyd didnt have that many missing prime names from his resume, nobody would be complaining....

                    Nobody cares that oscar fought carpenter, forbes or gatti because at the end of the day he still fought pernell, ike, tito, shane, vargas, hopkins, floyd and manny

                    Same thing with SRL,, nobody complains that he took the donny ladone fight or kevin howard,, because the end of the day he fought duran, benitz, hearns hagler......

                    if floyd had just a few names on his resume,, prince, freitas, casamoyer, spadfora, johnston, hatton 140, cotto 147, margs 147, manny 147, if he had manny and one more name off that list, nobody could call him a cherrypicker,,,

                    but when you have a string of fights sosa, ndou, corley, bruscles, gatti, shambra, people are going to call you a cherrypicker...

                    look at the guys floyd fought from 99 and 2000.... all scrubs...

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                    • wizard king
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                      #50
                      Ortiz no Guerrero yes he was a cherry pick

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