Looking back, where Ortiz and Guerrero even credible opponents for floyd???

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  • SplitSecond
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    #31
    ortiz was never that great on paper, but stylewise, and after his performance against berto, people thoguht he wouldn't fold like a tool so looked foward to that fight

    guerrero in my opinion was credible and a good win

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    • illmaticfighter
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      #32
      Originally posted by lx!!
      Ortiz was. Guerrero was & always will a joke.
      i agree guerrero was a ppv tune up ,same as oscar vs steve forbes but oscar wasn't charging for it.

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      • Chrismart
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        #33
        No, not for me.

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        • 4Corners
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          #34
          Originally posted by illmaticfighter
          i agree guerrero was a ppv tune up ,same as oscar vs steve forbes but oscar wasn't charging for it.
          Forbes wasn't even in the Top 10.......Guerrero was a Top 10 fighter.

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          • JoeKidd
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            #35
            Guerrero is a mugger. Ortiz would have been a good fight, had it been allowed to play out.

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            • Syf
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              #36
              Originally posted by Aztec Wanker
              Both these guys best wins (berto) git taken out impressively against a tough Gatekeeper at Ww. Karras did a better job then both these guys so there wins over berto where not even impressive if you think about it. Karass even best ayfin better then gurerro. Does this cement the claims that floyd is a cherry picker?
              In the moment, maybe. In retrospect, not at all.

              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              Ghost was legit, he would give any welter a tough fight,,, broner alexander, bradley, jmm, ortiz, maidana,, all would have problems with ghost,,,
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              Ghost can be outboxed.. or outgunned. He's not that big a deal. His pop is mediocre so any ****er with heart he fights it will be a war that he loses. Wait u said JMM? wow. Ghost can be easily countered and JMM is a damn beast nowadays. U a fool for that.

              Mentally weak guys or guys with less pop Ghost would give trouble to.. Bradley, Broner, Ortiz. Broner I think is mentally weak. yes. It just needs to be exposed.

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              • daggum
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                #37
                Originally posted by Syf
                In the moment, maybe. In retrospect, not at all.



                Ghost can be outboxed.. or outgunned. He's not that big a deal. His pop is mediocre so any ****er with heart he fights it will be a war that he loses. Wait u said JMM? wow. Ghost can be easily countered and JMM is a damn beast nowadays. U a fool for that.

                Mentally weak guys or guys with less pop Ghost would give trouble to.. Bradley, Broner, Ortiz. Broner I think is mentally weak. yes. It just needs to be exposed.
                nonexistent. he couldn't stop an old casamayor that bradley stopped. lol! even got floored by casamayor. hilarious.

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                • Sugar Adam Ali
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Syf
                  In the moment, maybe. In retrospect, not at all.



                  Ghost can be outboxed.. or outgunned. He's not that big a deal. His pop is mediocre so any ****er with heart he fights it will be a war that he loses. Wait u said JMM? wow. Ghost can be easily countered and JMM is a damn beast nowadays. U a fool for that.

                  Mentally weak guys or guys with less pop Ghost would give trouble to.. Bradley, Broner, Ortiz. Broner I think is mentally weak. yes. It just needs to be exposed.
                  Not saying ghost beats all those guys,, im just saying it wouldnt be a lopsided sparring session like floyd did to him....

                  JMM hasnt beaten one legit Welter, manny is like him-a blownup featherweight,,, people gonna realize this when bradley makes him look old and slow....
                  Hell diaz, katsisdis had there moments vs jmm, so why cant ghost give him trouble.....
                  Ghost gives anyone not named floyd a good competitive fight,,, may not win them all but def would preform better than when floyd shut him down...

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #39
                    I'd like to see Guerrero vs Maidana/Soto Karass/Thurman

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                    • lx!!
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by illmaticfighter
                      i agree guerrero was a ppv tune up ,same as oscar vs steve forbes but oscar wasn't charging for it.
                      Yup! Oscar was about the fans even now that he's retired always puts on good cards & there free.

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