why did berto fail in his shoulder roll

**�ringer** · 07-27-2013, 06:21 PM

Because he sucks.

**ИATAS** · 07-27-2013, 06:21 PM

Takes a lot of practice to be effective. Not something you can just pick up mid career.

**dc3383** · 07-27-2013, 06:23 PM

He's just not that good

**Zano-24** · 07-27-2013, 06:26 PM

He doesn't have the skill set to pull it off.

**Public_Enemy** · 07-27-2013, 06:43 PM

It's like one day he said my defense isn't good. How can I improve it? And someone in his camp said how about the shoulder roll? You're fast and slick like Floyd.

Honestly, Berto doesn't have the reflexes or iq to use it effectively. He doesn't have the footwork either. All ghost had to do was smother him and he was done. Berto was pretty much a sitting duck. Also, he shouldn't have been experimenting with it on Guerrero.

**cupocity303** · 07-27-2013, 06:46 PM

Berto doesn't have the body type for one thing. Even Broner doesn't look like a guy who should be shoulder rolling.

**IronDanHamza** · 07-27-2013, 06:51 PM

He doesn't have the reflexes, skills, timing or just general talent.

It also takes many years to perfect.

Mayweathers been practising the shoulder roll from a very early age and has the all the tools needed for it to work.

Berto doesn't have anything.

**sicko** · 07-27-2013, 06:59 PM

^IronDanHamza nailed it!

Don't Have The Reflexes Or Timing! Not only that but Shoulder Roll is actually for when your fighting INSIDE, it is the perfect defense when your dealing with and BULL/Power Puncher and you went to get inside of them and kind smother them and take away their Power. Watching the Richard Abril fight vs Rios for Philly Shell 101 and how it SHOULD BE USED I think he uses it the best after Mayweather of course.

Adrien Broner uses the James Toney version of it more so then Mayweather's or Abril's, Broner uses it to soften up the Blows and the Impact of the Punch but he is not afraid to take a punch similar to James Toney in his PRIME whom was defensive but at the same time loved to slug it out as well that is how Broner fights and I think against a guy like Maidana you will see Broner look very impressive against Maidana style, a guy that will come to him and he will be able to get into that shell and just pick him apart especially with Maidana's lack of head movement and defense

**Sugar Adam Ali** · 07-27-2013, 07:02 PM

Because he has the reflexes of a concrete block

and he is partially brain damaged

why did berto fail in his shoulder roll