why did berto fail in his shoulder roll

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  • illmaticfighter
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    #11
    also as someone said why with guerrero ?

    but when you look at all the fights that have given him trouble it's been southpaws and then to try it for the first time with a southpaw is ******ed.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #12
      His arms are too short, and he's too muscular; or I should say too stiff, one needs to be flexible with their shoulder.

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      • edgarg
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        #13
        Originally posted by Sam Donald
        he looked pretty good till he quit

        reminded me what tyson ssaid
        Because a successful shoulder roll, which is actually easy to achieve, also needs a good solid elbow to the throat......He wasn't doing that.

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        • edgarg
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          #14
          Originally posted by Public_Enemy
          It's like one day he said my defense isn't good. How can I improve it? And someone in his camp said how about the shoulder roll? You're fast and slick like Floyd.

          Honestly, Berto doesn't have the reflexes or iq to use it effectively. He doesn't have the footwork either. All ghost had to do was smother him and he was done. Berto was pretty much a sitting duck. Also, he shouldn't have been experimenting with it on Guerrero.
          You also need to be watching your opponent's every twitch like a hawk, and constantly moving and feinting yourself. All in a package. it needs a pretty good anticipation etc.

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          • Prawn Jovi
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            #15
            Because he thought the shoulder roll was a way to ignore someone when they say something you don't like.

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            • tibbar
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              #16
              Because he doesnt have the same amount of fear for his health, you must be very afraid to make it effective...

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              • JDezi4
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                #17
                He's too flatfooted, and he doesn't have the necessary upper body movement...

                Its not just about rolling the shoulder, you have to lean back, and shrink the opening with you right hand (close it like an automatic door)... Also, u have to step back quick, or dip real low (sometime lower than the waste, which is illegal) after u roll the first punch cause otherwise ur just a sitting duck that's off balance...
                Last edited by JDezi4; 07-27-2013, 11:46 PM.

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                • -Hyperion-
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                  #18
                  no defensive IQ, slow feet, wide ass body(big target), not enough reflexes, short arms, doesnt know when to use it...

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                  • Kagami Taiga
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                    #19
                    hes uses it and he doesnt know what hes doing.

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                    • daggum
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                      #20
                      i thought he used it pretty well tonight

                      first round gets completely rocked and staggered
                      third round gets rocked and staggered
                      fourth round gets rocked and staggered all over the ring

                      hey but that 2nd round!

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