Does being a power puncher automatically make a fighter the probable winner.

[New England]

Not always, but when the two men in question are both known to **** it out, the edge obviously always goes to the guy with the more powerful punches and the more proven chin. That man in the Garcia/Matthysse fight is Matthysse.

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[KING MEAT]

margarito is a known hard puncher. fac puc'd him up

[ßringer]

margarito is a known hard puncher. fac puc'd him up

No, Margarito was a known volume puncher. He never really had one punch knockout power. He wore everybody down with his tremendous output of punches per fight. He wasn't called 'The Tijuana Tornado' for nothing.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

And Lamotta/Robinson, and McCall/Lewis, and Rahman/Lewis, and Douglas/Tyson, and Barkley/Hearns, and Margarito/Cotto, and Abraham/Dirrell, and Marciano/Walcott, and Frazier/Ali, and Jones/Johnson, and Ibeabuchi/Byrd, and Ortiz/Maidana, and dozens upon dozens of other examples.

"Skills pay the bills" is only true 50% of the time in this sport.

Even still, in regards to this topic. Matthysse is the more skilled boxer of the two. He's also the bigger puncher, the man with the better record, and the man with the better chin.

I also wouldn't even dream of saying that Ray Leonard was a more skilled fighter than Tommy Hearns.

You make good points... but its still not the norm,, Im talikng about guys that can move and box and have defense and counters,, Tyson not a pure boxer, ortiz/maidana both ****ers, jones was shot vs johnson, lewis got caught being overconfident, just look at the rematches,, lamotta was 1-5 vs SRR, Going into the fight hearns was considered the power puncher and SRL the boxer,, roles got reversed in the fight but SRL won,,, Byrd was a blown up lhw vs a huge power puncher in ike,,, Yes power does matter if you get caught but if you have skills you win 80% of the time..
Hell look at hopkins..
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pavlik
tarver
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pascal
all harder punchers and all got beat by bernard..
Ward would beat down stevenson

[ßringer]

You make good points... but its still not the norm,, Im talikng about guys that can move and box and have defense and counters,, Tyson not a pure boxer, ortiz/maidana both ****ers, jones was shot vs johnson, lewis got caught being overconfident, just look at the rematches,, lamotta was 1-5 vs SRR, Going into the fight hearns was considered the power puncher and SRL the boxer,, roles got reversed in the fight but SRL won,,, Byrd was a blown up lhw vs a huge power puncher in ike,,, Yes power does matter if you get caught but if you have skills you win 80% of the time..
Hell look at hopkins..
tito
pavlik
tarver
cloud
pascal
all harder punchers and all got beat by bernard..
Ward would beat down stevenson

That's a ****ton of excuses, bro. Fact is the harder puncher and more determined fighter beat the guy with more "skills" in every fight I outlined. You can make excuses for the outcome of every fight in the history of the sport if you wanted to, that doesn't make them true, nor does it dismiss the outcome.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Canelo is much more powerful than floyd,, but floyd got the skills, floyd will win

Manny was the power puncher vs JMM

KAtsidis was the power puncher vs JMM

katsidis was the power puncher vs casamoyer

Corrales the power puncher vs floyd, casamoyer

Chavez jr power puncher vs serg

pavlik power puncher vs serg

tito vs winky
oscar vs floyd
Holyfield his entire heavyweight career usually was the smaller puncher
Whittaker vs roger, chavez, vasquez etc

[LoadedWraps]

The reason why I ask this is because people are giving Lucas so much praise that he can beat anyone that is not named Floyd Mayweather 140-147. To be quite honest, I would not overlook Garcia in this one and I am picking Garcia to win. If Quillin fought Golovkin, I would not overlook Quillin but Golovkin and Matthysse are two different fighters in two different weight classes. But Golovkin would probably win that fight. When it comes to Matthysses situation, it is tough to beat someone who always finds a way to win no matter how much power a fighter has. Danny Garcia always finds a way to win and I am eager to see what he will do to win this fight. I don't see how Matthysse wins this fight. I say Garcia will catch him with a left or will technically out box Matthysse.

Matthysse may be on a hot streak, but being on a hot streak does not mean you aren't a hypejob. Matthysse is a hypejob and it will be known on September 14th.

The better boxer or more intelligent fighter is usually the probable winner/favorite, troll.

[ßringer]

Canelo is much more powerful than floyd,, but floyd got the skills, floyd will win

Manny was the power puncher vs JMM

KAtsidis was the power puncher vs JMM

katsidis was the power puncher vs casamoyer

Corrales the power puncher vs floyd, casamoyer

Chavez jr power puncher vs serg

pavlik power puncher vs serg

tito vs winky
oscar vs floyd
Holyfield his entire heavyweight career usually was the smaller puncher
Whittaker vs roger, chavez, vasquez etc

Katsidis and De La Hoya were never considered power punchers at any point in their respective careers. Chavez Jr also isn't a power puncher, he's a volume puncher similar to Margarito. Also, since you're into the whole excuse making thing, Trinidad was coming off of a lengthy retirement when he fought Wright. Interesting that you only make excuses for the fights that dismiss your point.

Regardless, I can name drop another 15-20 fights where legitimate punchers and more determinated fighters beat the holy hell out of guys who were generally considered slicker or more skilled, but I digress. The point of the matter is that skills don't always win fights. You'd have to be a complete ****** to try to argue that they do. Not saying you are or anything. Just stating fact.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

That's a ****ton of excuses, bro. Fact is the harder puncher and more determined fighter beat the guy with more "skills" in every fight I outlined. You can make excuses for the outcome of every fight in the history of the sport if you wanted to, that doesn't make them true, nor does it dismiss the outcome.

So you think Ortiz is a technical boxer, Cotto is a technical boxer,,, look at cotto vs margs and what shane did to margs,,, margs was a punching bag coming forward, less technical guys like cintron and cotto get eaten alive by margs...
lamotta went 1-5 vs srr, not like it was a close rivalry,, dude won the first and never won again...
You seriously think roy jones wasnt shot vs johnson,,,, Johnson wasnt even a big puncher but a volume puncher,,, look what hopkins did,,,,

So by your judgement, canelo will crush floyd,,, Stevenson would crush ward, Jeff lacy cdertainly would kill Joe calzaghe,,, Peter would steamroll the klits, Tito would ko hopkins and winky,

VArgas should have destroyed shane and oscar....

Rule of thumb is skills beat power,,,,,,, you can take power punchers all day but in the long run you will be wrong about 75%-80% of the time,,,

[ßringer]

So you think Ortiz is a technical boxer, Cotto is a technical boxer,,, look at cotto vs margs and what shane did to margs,,, margs was a punching bag coming forward, less technical guys like cintron and cotto get eaten alive by margs...
lamotta went 1-5 vs srr, not like it was a close rivalry,, dude won the first and never won again...
You seriously think roy jones wasnt shot vs johnson,,,, Johnson wasnt even a big puncher but a volume puncher,,, look what hopkins did,,,,

So by your judgement, canelo will crush floyd,,, Stevenson would crush ward, Jeff lacy cdertainly would kill Joe calzaghe,,, Peter would steamroll the klits, Tito would ko hopkins and winky,

VArgas should have destroyed shane and oscar....

Rule of thumb is skills beat power,,,,,,, you can take power punchers all day but in the long run you will be wrong about 75%-80% of the time,,,

They were more skilled boxers than the guys who ended up beating the **** out of them in the fights I used as examples, yes. Your use of the word "technical" (especially when I never used such a word in my original post) is indicative of the fact that you only equate a certain style (Mayweather, Whitaker, Leonard, as outlined earlier by you) with being skilled. Also known as "flashy" or eye-catching styles. That simply isn't true. A fighter can be skilled in a multitude of areas without being flashy. Julio Cesar Chavez immediately springs to mind.

Again, you're making an argument for something that simply isn't the case.