Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[El Angel]

80 people agree Vits resume is not ATG worthy. Are they all haters with an agenda? Or is it they just see what Klit fans want to shield their eyes from.......the truth?

Everybody who doesn't agree with something is a hater, never mind if they have facts to back up their points.

[JAB5239]

Everybody who doesn't agree with something is a hater, never mind if they have facts to back up their points.

I don't agree with that. Problem here though is 20 people have voted Vits has an ATG resume yet not a single one has explained why.

[GRboxing]

Vitali is not an ATG. He is a tough match for everyone at heavyweight. But so is Ike Ibeabuchi.

Is he an ATG too? I can name a fighter in every original division that is a tough fight for almost everyone yet they aren't actually ATGs.

Styles, ya know?

[JAB5239]

Vitali is not an ATG. He is a tough match for everyone at heavyweight. But so is Ike Ibeabuchi.

Is he an ATG too? I can name a fighter in every original division that is a tough fight for almost everyone yet they aren't actually ATGs.

Styles, ya know?

Funny you bring up Ibeabuchi as I was going to bring both him and Jerry Quarry about an hour ago but decided to just let it pass.

[GRboxing]

Funny you bring up Ibeabuchi as I was going to bring both him and Jerry Quarry about an hour ago but decided to just let it pass.

not to say it's vitali's fault per se, but he got injured far too much, lost to the best he fought and took too much time off. there is no way he even makes a top 200 list.

[beez721]

not to say it's vitali's fault per se, but he got injured far too much, lost to the best he fought and took too much time off. there is no way he even makes a top 200 list.

lol,,,,200 huh? would love to see that list

[JAB5239]

not to say it's vitali's fault per se, but he got injured far too much, lost to the best he fought and took too much time off. there is no way he even makes a top 200 list.

200? Are you talking at heavyweight or p4p? Lets not go overboard here.

[GRboxing]

lol,,,,200 huh? would love to see that list

01 - Sam Langford
02 - Harry Greb
03 - Sugar Ray Robinson
04 - Henry Armstrong
05 - Ezzard Charles
06 - Bob Fitzsimmons
07 - Muhammad Ali
08 - Joe Gans
09 - Joe Louis
10 - Roberto Duran.
11 - Benny Leonard
12 - Mickey Walker
13 - Willie Pep
14 - Barney Ross
15 - Archie Moore
16 - Ray Leonard
17 - George Dixon
18 - Terry McGovern
19 - Packey McFarland
20 - Pernell Whitaker
21 - Tony Canzoneri
22 - Jimmy McLarnin
23 - Sandy Saddler
24 - Stanley Ketchel
25 - Charley Burley
26 - Holman Williams
27 - Billy Conn
28 - Gene Tunney
29 - Roy Jones
30 - Joe Walcott
31 - Carlos Monzon
32 - Jimmy Wilde
33 - Eder Jofre
34 - Marvin Hagler
35 - Julio Cesar Chavez
36 - Tommy Gibbons
37 - Kid Gavilan
38 - Jack Britton
39 - Emile Griffith
40 - Jose Napoles
41 - Alexis Arguello
42 - Michael Spinks
43 - Tommy Loughran
44 - Thomas Hearns
45 - Jimmy Bivins
46 - Ike Williams
47 - Floyd Mayweather
48 - Manny Pacquiao
49 - Tommy Ryan
50 - Jack Dillon
51 - Bernard Hopkins
52 - Carlos Ortiz
53 - Fighting Harada
54 - Ruben Olivares
55 – Evander Holyfield
56 - Young Corbett III
57 - Mike Gibbons
58 – Ted Kid Lewis
59 - Freddie Welsh
60 - Freddie Steele
61 - Lou Ambers
62 - Salvador Sanchez
63 - Wilfredo Gomez
64 - Vicente Saldivar
65 - Rocky Marciano
66 - Abe Attell
67 - Manuel Ortiz
68 - Harold Johnson
69 - **** Tiger
70 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
71 - Carmen Basilio
72 - Carlos Zarate
73 - Miguel Canto
74 - Oscar De La Hoya
75 - Azumah Nelson
76 - Mike McCallum
77 - Lary Holmes
78 - Bob Foster
79 - Teddy Yarosz
80 - Jim Driscoll
81 - Panama Al Brown
82 - Pascual Perez
83 - Lloyd Marshall
84 – Jake LaMotta
85 - Juan Manuel Marquez
86 – Wilfred Benitez
87 – Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
88 – Erik Morales
89 – Marco Antonio Barrera
90 - Young Griffo
91 - Fritzie Zivic
92 - Joe Frazier
93 - Pete Herman
94 - Lennox Lewis
95 - Jack "Kid" Berg
96 - Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
97 - James Toney
98 - Nicolino Locche
99 - Jung Koo Chang
100-George Foreman


Tier I
Kid McCoy, Beau Jack, Tiger Flowers, Jeff Smith, Sammy Mandell, Kid Chocolate, Johnny Dundee, Sammy Agnott, Billy Graham.

Tier II
Bob Montgomery, Jeff Fenech, Ad Wolgast, Midget Wolgast, Benny Lynch, Billy Petrolle, Pancho Villa, Eddie Booker, Young Stribling.

Tier III
Aaron Pryor, Joe Calzaghe, Mike Tyson, Antonio Cervantes, Joe Brown, Duilio Loi, Marcel Cerdan, Fidel LaBarbara, Sammy Fuller, Nino Benvenuti, Ricardo Lopez, Ernesto Marcel, Eusebio Pedroza,

The rest:
Bud Taylor, Frankie Genaro, Flash Elorde, Battling Nelson, Freddie Miller, Les Darcy, Joe Lynch, Willie Joyce.
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, Jimmy Barry, Gilberto Roman, Ismael Laguna, Maxie Rosenbloom,Sonny Liston, Jack Johnson, Esteban DeJesus, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Baby Arzimendi,
Sixto Escobar, Brian Mitchell, Felix Trinidad, Cocoa Kid, Sugar Shane Mosle, Battling Battalino, i, Fred Apostoli, Lew Jenkins, Jack Delaney, Jim Jeffries, Harry Wills, Jack Dempsey, Wladimir Klitschko.

More:

Sixto Escobar
Brian Mitchell
Felix Trinidad
Cocoa Kid
Jersey Joe Walcott
Esteban DeJesus
Gene Fullmer
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Battling Battalino
Baby Arzimendi
Wladmir Klitschko
Fred Apostoli
Lew Jenkins
Jeff Clark
Ken Buchanan
Jack Delaney
Owen Moran
Victor Galindez
Ismael Laguna
Floyd Patterson
Tippy Larkin
Jack McAuliffe
Georges Carpentier
Yuri Arbachakov
Kostya Tszyu
Sumbu Kalambay
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Joey Giardello

[Desert Warrior]

Like Whitaker he is an ATG by default.....I mean the dominance and pure talent is there so he is automatically and ATG, just like another poster used that same argument for Whitaker being an ATG in a recent thread.

[GRboxing]

Like Whitaker he is an ATG by default.....I mean the dominance and pure talent is there so he is automatically and ATG, just like another poster used that same argument for Whitaker being an ATG in a recent thread.

******ed. Whitaker's wins over Nelson, McGirt, Ramirez and Vasquez crap on anything Vitali did