Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

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  • JAB5239
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    #271
    Originally posted by beez721
    lol,,saying vitali isnt a hofer is every bit as ludicrous as his fanboys calling him a top 10 atg. laughable
    Agreed. Vits is definitely a HOF fighter.

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      #272
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      All your posts have been answered and so has every question through out this thread by either myself or one of the other very reasonable people who realize Vits, while being a very good fighter and a probable h2h nightmare for most fighters in history, is simply not an all time great because of a very weak resume. You on the other hand refuse to answer (just like every other Vitaly stan) what it is that puts him ahead of more accomplished fighters with better resumes. You refuse to answer what other ATG heavyweight holds NO wins over another ATG or HOFer. You would rather say things like "you got destroyed" or "your agenda was exposed" and ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority agree with me. So I'll ask you again, have they all been destroyed too? Do they all have an agenda also?
      You just keep on ducking my points. According to you a fighter has to be top 20 all-time at HW to be an ATG. On your ATG HW list Vitali JUST misses the cut.

      An ATG is per definition hightly subjective and still you got the nerve to ridicule those who rank Vitali as say no. 20 while you yourself on that highly subjective list has him JUST outside. Talk about being a hippocrite.

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      • DreamFighter
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        #273
        Originally posted by beez721
        lol,,saying vitali isnt a hofer is every bit as ludicrous as his fanboys calling him a top 10 atg. laughable
        What feat makes him worthy of HOF?

        Apart from being in a family of champions....genetics doesn't qualify you for HOF just yet, boxings not THAT corrupt yet.

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        • r.burgundy
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          #274
          vitali is definitely an atg fighter and top 20 hw in history.you can only fight who is put in front of you.people try and put smokin joe in a top 10 list and he has 1 great win over ali.ive seen guys like norton get atg praise.who in the hell did joe louis beat that was great?maxschmelling lol.vitali is the most dominant hw champ since tyson and deserves some respect.his title reign is no different from roy jone,hopkins,or any other champ who has ever had a sustained run

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            #275
            Originally posted by r.burgundy
            vitali is definitely an atg fighter and top 20 hw in history.you can only fight who is put in front of you.people try and put smokin joe in a top 10 list and he has 1 great win over ali.ive seen guys like norton get atg praise.who in the hell did joe louis beat that was great?
            you are laughing joe louis's atg status? good luck with that.

            vitali is the most dominant hw champ since Tyson
            hes number two HW at his very best.

            But yes he deserves some respect.

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            • r.burgundy
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              #276
              Originally posted by DreamFighter
              you are laughing joe louis's atg status? good luck with that.

              hes number two HW at his very best.

              But yes he deserves some respect.
              boxing is the absolute worst when it comes to giving credit.every other sport can recognize its great athletes regardless of era,but not boxing lol.cause such and such didnt fight in 1960 he isnt good.**** is just plain silly.joe louis had the absolute worst competition of any hw champ and he still managed to lose,but yet he gets a lifetime pass for some odd reason.

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                #277
                Originally posted by r.burgundy
                boxing is the absolute worst when it comes to giving credit.every other sport can recognize its great athletes regardless of era,but not boxing lol.cause such and such didnt fight in 1960 he isnt good.**** is just plain silly.joe louis had the absolute worst competition of any hw champ and he still managed to lose,but yet he gets a lifetime pass for some odd reason.
                I cant agree with knocking Louis's atg status..

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                • r.burgundy
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                  #278
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter
                  I cant agree with knocking Louis's atg status..
                  if you gonna criticize vitali,then you gotta criticize everybody.no need to play favorites.judge fighters fairly

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                  • Jedi Vader
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                    #279
                    I've still yet to see one person actually answer the simple questions that Jabs has asked to be answered and instead, there's just been pure nuthugging and childish name calling. Even if someone tried to answer and maybe got their facts wrong, at least that would count for something but, no. Just look at BattlingNelson's pathetic posts in the thread as perfect evidence to support what I'm getting at.

                    Personally, I don't think H2H ranking has anything to do with whether you're an ATG or not. The fact of that matter is quite simple, Klitali isn't an ATG and he's borderline HoF. He hasn't beaten any fighter of any note and will only be remembered for his 2 defeats. That's 2 defeats he never even tried to avenge either.

                    You Klitlickers are simply the worst 'fans' on Boxingscene.

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                      #280
                      Originally posted by Jedi Vader
                      I've still yet to see one person actually answer the simple questions that Jabs has asked to be answered and instead, there's just been pure nuthugging and childish name calling. Even if someone tried to answer and maybe got their facts wrong, at least that would count for something but, no. Just look at BattlingNelson's pathetic posts in the thread as perfect evidence to support what I'm getting at.

                      Personally, I don't think H2H ranking has anything to do with whether you're an ATG or not. The fact of that matter is quite simple, Klitali isn't an ATG and he's borderline HoF. He hasn't beaten any fighter of any note and will only be remembered for his 2 defeats. That's 2 defeats he never even tried to avenge either.

                      You Klitlickers are simply the worst 'fans' on Boxingscene.
                      Where do you rank Vitali all time and who is ranked above him?

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