"the objective of boxing is to hit and not get hit"

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  • ИATAS
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    #21
    Originally posted by frosty-g
    and coulda easily boxed much longer, he was always in great shape. he retired at an early enough age for a high level fighter
    i never said he had a short career but it did end earlier than it would have otherwise needed to
    He was not in good shape between fights however. He had a very poor diet and was a boozer, which probably had more effect on his career than anything else. That and getting KOd by the two best fighters on the planet of course. He also did ******* (how much we don't know but its naive to think he only did it at the end of his career/retirement )
    Last edited by ИATAS; 07-25-2013, 12:27 PM.

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    • Biolink
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      #22
      Originally posted by frosty-g
      and coulda easily boxed much longer, he was always in great shape. he retired at an early enough age for a high level fighter
      i never said he had a short career but it did end earlier than it would have otherwise needed to
      He was in great conditioning come fight night because he had some natural ability, but even Hatton's fanbase used to call him out on his out of ring habits.

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      • SugarAnt05
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        #23
        This work out for Brian Vera

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        • MikeRo1972
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          #24
          It is ABSOLUTELY a science. Shifting weight, balance, using defensive movements to create offensive momentum when striking, feinting, footwork, head movement, creating force from your toes through your legs, torso, shoulder, arm, fist... etc etc. otherwise it would be a toughman contest. Defensive fighters are ABSOLUTELY head and shoulders above brawlers in terms of overall skill, ability, intelligence, and athleticism.

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          • CubanGuyNYC
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            #25
            Originally posted by ИATAS
            Whitaker was an athletic freak of nature though. That style was best for him. Do you think Chavez Sr. should have tried to be a defensive wizard? You gotta know what you're capable of and what you're strenghts and weaknesses are. If being a pressure fighter is your strength, then embrace it. Not everyone has the ability or skillset to fight like a Whitaker or a Mayweather etc.
            Just as there are different kinds of human beings, there are different styles to suit them. Athletes must chose, early on, the method that offers them the greatest chances of success. As an old martial arts instructor once said to me, "There are many paths to the top of the mountain."

            I love the fact that there are varying styles. I enjoy them all. It would get pretty boring if everyone fought the same way and the same style always won out. It cracks me up how some guys support only one manner of fighting. It's like listening to only one kind of music or eating the same food, meal after meal. There's nothing wrong with preferences -- we all have them -- but variety is the ****e of life...and boxing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by CatchweightKing
              Stop it already. Its not. The objective is to win. All this crap about sweet science this and that is nice and all but its not all there is to boxing. Boxing is about using your preferred style to triumph over your opponent and his style. Saying "boxing's objective is to hit and not be hit " doesn't make you look smarter or knowledgeable.
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                #27
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                Just as there are different kinds of human beings, there are different styles to suit them. Athletes must chose, early on, the method that offers them the greatest chances of success. As an old martial arts instructor once said to me, "There are many paths to the top of the mountain."

                I love the fact that there are varying styles. I enjoy them all. It would get pretty boring if everyone fought the same way and the same style always won out. It cracks me up how some guys support only one manner of fighting. It's like listening to only one kind of music or eating the same food, meal after meal. There's nothing wrong with preferences -- we all have them -- but variety is the ****e of life...and boxing.
                Exactly, well said. I Have Hopkins and Golovkin in my avy and sig, two totally different styles yet I love watching both of them. I love watching the skills and smarts of Rigondeaux, Hopkins and Floyd and love watching the brutality of Golovkin and Matthyse. And there is SKILL in what Golovkin and Matthysse do, some people don't get that it takes an awful lot of skill and intelligence to effectively cut off the ring and set up shots.

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                • mconstantine
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  The objective is to win.

                  And hitting + not getting hit is the easiest way to win.

                  Duh.
                  Thank you. I'm assuming the TS is referring to me since I have said this several times on here recently. I thought this was the obvious connection between hitting/not getting hit and winning.

                  If this objective is met, it will ALWAYS result in a victory. Of course this would be the definition of a perfect fight, which doesn't exist. Doesn't change the goal.

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                  • brick wall
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                    #29
                    the objective is to win and entertain the fans because without the fans boxing is dead.

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                    • johnm is...
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      The objective is to win.

                      And hitting + not getting hit is the easiest way to win.

                      Duh.
                      This thread should have ended right here.

                      Can't believe someone is actually suggesting a "hit and get hit" method of victory.

                      "Let us just take turns punching each other, and see who falls first, shall we?"

                      "Hit and not get hit" seems like a MUCH more sound plan for victory.

                      It's boxing. Not punching. Go watch Toughman or some shit.

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