Malik Scott looking to have his loss turned into a NC

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  • deanrw
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    #41
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    And he did? But it was taken by that VADA or USADA (whichever one has that silent agreement), and it was his B sample (post fight) that was positive. Everyone were just told before the rematch.

    Nono you got it wrong. Khan lost the first fight, no bad blood tests. The blood test failure happened just before the rematch, hence the fight not happening. Now Peterson admitted he was on the same testosterone during the first fight, so the WBA gave Khan the title back. The ruling was not changed because PEDerson was not actually caught in the first fight.

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    • Russian Crushin
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      Right, so why rob Chisora twice over .5 of a second? Rather just take action against the ref.
      Its like saying if a cop arrests the wrong guy for murder, they should just punish the cop instead of releasing the prisoner.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Its like saying if a cop arrests the wrong guy for murder, they should just punish the cop instead of releasing the prisoner.
        lol do we have to take everything to the extremes of murder?

        I think NC-ing the fight would be very harsh on Chisora, he is the real innocent party in all this and the one who stands to lose most from the NC.

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          #44
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          lol do we have to take everything to the extremes of murder?

          I think NC-ing the fight would be very harsh on Chisora, he is the real innocent party in all this and the one who stands to lose most from the NC.
          chisora should be mad at the ref for cheating for him. that doesn't mean he gets a free win based on a 9 count. maybe the ****** refs will think twice next time they try to cheat and stop fights early. cleverly's main plan just got thrown out the window against kovalev. he's sweating.

          i would say scott has the most to lose since he actually lost unfairly. chisora got a free win that he didn't deserve. i don't feel bad taking away something he didn't deserve. maybe he would have won but boxing doesn't work on maybe's unless you are a mayweather fan. next time don't cheat and we will see who wins.

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            #45
            Originally posted by daggum
            chisora should be mad at the ref for cheating for him. that doesn't mean he gets a free win based on a 9 count. maybe the ****** refs will think twice next time they try to cheat and stop fights early. cleverly's main plan just got thrown out the window against kovalev. he's sweating.

            i would say scott has the most to lose since he actually lost unfairly. chisora got a free win that he didn't deserve. i don't feel bad taking away something he didn't deserve. maybe he would have won but boxing doesn't work on maybe's unless you are a mayweather fan. next time don't cheat and we will see who wins.
            The way I see it:

            Ref - messed up the count
            Scott - should've got up sooner (I think he agrees at this point)
            Chisora - did nothing wrong

            You NC it, who do you penalise most? the guy who did nothing wrong.

            I appreciate some will argue Scott did nothing wrong but it's like Bryant Jennings said 'Malik played with the count'.

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              lol do we have to take everything to the extremes of murder?

              I think NC-ing the fight would be very harsh on Chisora, he is the real innocent party in all this and the one who stands to lose most from the NC.
              Thats not an extreme at all.

              He doesnt deserve the win so why should he have it? Im sure scotts stands to lose more with a loss than a NC, and was the only who was actually cheated

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                #47
                Originally posted by The Weebler II
                The way I see it:

                Ref - messed up the count
                Scott - Did nothing wrong, cheated, has a false loss
                Chisora - did nothing wrong

                You NC it, who do you penalise most? the guy who did nothing wrong.

                I appreciate some will argue Scott did nothing wrong but it's like Bryant Jennings said 'Malik played with the count'.
                Malik played with the count, did he change it to 9 instead of 10?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  Just wondering if that means the bookies may void bets?
                  I think all bookies only count what happens in-ring.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II
                    The way I see it:

                    Ref - messed up the count
                    Scott - should've got up sooner (I think he agrees at this point)
                    Chisora - did nothing wrong

                    You NC it, who do you penalise most? the guy who did nothing wrong.

                    I appreciate some will argue Scott did nothing wrong but it's like Bryant Jennings said 'Malik played with the count'.
                    well scott did nothing wrong according to the rules. we have rules to take human bias out of the equation. if you don't NC it you let moron refs supplant the rules. chisora didn't actually beat scott under the rules of boxing so i don't feel bad for taking away a win he shouldn't have. maybe next time warren will get a better ref.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      Malik played with the count, did he change it to 9 instead of 10?
                      if malik scott played baseball............strike 2 you're out!

                      then fans of the other team would say "hey he should have swung! forget the rules!"

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