does floyd last ppv proves he needs a top undercard?

[FeFist]

Against Canelo, no he doesn't.

And to be honest, I'm not sure how much a stacked card really contributes to PPV sales for a fight like this.

It's not about contributing to this fights sales but contributing to the sales of their next fight. Canelo will more than likely fight the winner of Trout v Lara, whilst Mayweather will go on to fight the winner of Matthysse v Garcia. At the moment Lara, Garcia, Trout, and Matthysse are not well known but being on the undercard of their fight will increase buzz.

Even if they don't fight Floyd or Canelo, the exposure is still good for their future match ups. More promoters should do this, it is good for their fighter's reputation and good for boxing fans.

[thuggery]

Well, let's see.

1.5 mil PPV buys with Canelo on the undercard

850k PPV buys without Canelo

[The Big Dunn]

Mayweather was the B side to the ODLH fight, so that 2.5 million doesnt hold as much weight.

except all of ODH's other Bsides never did more than 1.4 mil. so I think it's clear that Mayweather is great whether he is a bside or an aside-sorta like Kobe Bryant.

[FeFist]

I can see why you would think that with the numbers. But, dont hold much stock in JCCjr. He has a following but not as big. Everyone knows hes never fought anyone or done anything big in his career. Fans got bored with him.
Sergio on the other hand has. Im not 100% who raked in the most due to fan base, but if i had to bet it would be Sergio carried those numbers.

Chavez Jr. was the draw going into that fight, there's a reason why Sergio chased after his ass for so long. There's also a reason why Ward is gunning for Chavez Jr. not Martinez. For boxing the Mexican fanbase is bigger than the Argentinian fanbase.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Well, let's see.

1.5 mil PPV buys with Canelo on the undercard

850k PPV buys without Canelo

To be fair, mosely and cotto are much bigger names than ghost...... If floyd had fought another A-level name he would have done much more... Guerrero just didnt excite the casual fans the way a cotto or mosely did......

Yes Canelo adds some ppv buys but i doubt he adds 600,000 buys to floyds ppv.. more like 50k or 100k.. Cotto, mosely fights probably would have done like 1.4 with no canelo.....
If canelo was responsible for 600,000 ppv buys like you suggest then trout-canelo would have been on ppv

[The Big Dunn]

To be fair, mosely and cotto are much bigger names than ghost...... If floyd had fought another A-level name he would have done much more... Guerrero just didnt excite the casual fans the way a cotto or mosely did......

Yes Canelo adds some ppv buys but i doubt he adds 600,000 buys to floyds ppv.. more like 50k or 100k.. Cotto, mosely fights probably would have done like 1.4 with no canelo.....
If canelo was responsible for 600,000 ppv buys like you suggest then trout-canelo would have been on ppv

There is a reason floyd is guaranteed $40 mil and Canelo $10 mil.

[maguirre]

I remember Bob Costas asking Floyd something related, "But fighting fighter A doesn't generate the same PPV number compared to fighting fighter B," something to that effect. Floyd insisted that he can make the same money fighting any fighter not named Pacquiao. (I'll have to review that Costas interview when time permits.) I found it...

[thuggery]

To be fair, mosely and cotto are much bigger names than ghost...... If floyd had fought another A-level name he would have done much more... Guerrero just didnt excite the casual fans the way a cotto or mosely did......

Yes Canelo adds some ppv buys but i doubt he adds 600,000 buys to floyds ppv.. more like 50k or 100k.. Cotto, mosely fights probably would have done like 1.4 with no canelo.....
If canelo was responsible for 600,000 ppv buys like you suggest then trout-canelo would have been on ppv

I didn't suggest that though. I just pointed out figures. It just goes to show that Mayweather isn't a draw by himself. People said he does over 1 mil with anyone he fights, and that obviously wasn't the case with Guerrero.

Sometimes a fight itself being added to a card makes it all worth while. In my case, I wasn't going to buy the Canelo/Mayweather PPV since I have means to HD streams. But with Garcia/Matthysse being added I feel the added bonus has enough grounds for a purchase.

[New England]

Against Canelo, no he doesn't.

And to be honest, I'm not sure how much a stacked card really contributes to PPV sales for a fight like this.

it will get hardcore fans who are on the fence about buying the fight to pony up and buy the thing. there are very few of those in the country.

lot's of the people who stream fights will still stream the thing. some of them are just cheap, but i'm convinced that most of them [that stream] simply cannot afford to pay $70 to watch a boxing match, and i have to respect that.

undercards really aren't watched by the layman. this card should really be a co feature. the better fight is matthysse and garcia.


if you are in full support of a big, worthy ppv, and you can afford it, and you still stream it i consider you less of a fan.

[StarPower]

Mayweather was the B side to the ODLH fight, so that 2.5 million doesnt hold as much weight.

You know what does hold weight is Floyd vs a shot past his prime Cotto did better numbers than prime Oscar vs prime Tito.