does floyd last ppv proves he needs a top undercard?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

If he has a good well known opponent that people think has a chance ... i.e. Canelo he'll do big numbers. If he has a no hoper that nobody has ever heard of and there is nothing much on the under-card either ... he won't do great numbers. So no, he doesn't NEED a big under-card as long as he has a decent opponent.

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pretty much sums it up....

[PAC-BOY]

Floyd has suck a little fan base and no country behind him...he needs opponents that do. Canelo Martinez GGG Pacquiao all have HUGE fan base. Canelo is a fight he has to fight or else.
He cant generate big money on his own like these fighters can!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Floyd has suck a little fan base and no country behind him...he needs opponents that do. Canelo Martinez GGG Pacquiao all have HUGE fan base. Canelo is a fight he has to fight or else.
He cant generate big money on his own like these fighters can!

I disagree,,, Floyd vs Ghost still did over 900,000 which is way more than serg and chavez jr, which was a much bigger event with 2 huge fanbases and it only did 500,000 or so.....

[The Big Dunn]

Exactly. I commend GBP for putting Garcia-Matthysse on the card, but I think it's a bad business move, atleast in the short run. That fight would've done great as a non-PPV main event.

ESPN said GBP went to floyd and floyd ok'd it for the undercard. If so its good hat he actually is putting fans first for a change (of course it helps set up his next ppv so he isn't totally altruistic in his motivation).

[$0uthpaw]

no hating at all

it has been common knowledge, gb used canelo to help floyd get his ppv numbers, while his fans on here and himself took all the credit in terms of floyd being responsible, his last ppv, no canelo, smiler stature fighter to say ortiz and his ppv flopped to about 850k buys costing showtime on the region of 15-20m

before this, someone like pac who had terrible undercards was close to hitting floyds numbers in his prime

the next ppv will do well but garcia vs math and possibly lara vs trout? will be on it, will those 2 fights make an average ppv do good like it has done for him in the past?

does this show floyd is not the super duper draw he claims to be?

what are your thoughts, since all we have to talk about is bs at the moment due to low boxing activity

No, GBP helped themselves by putting Canelo on Floyds undercards. Canelo was unknown when he was first put on a floyd undercard in 2010, That fight with shane did over 1 million. His fight with Hatton also did over one million. The only reason why the Guerrero fight did do over a million because not as many people are subscribed to Sho as they are HBO.

[VERSION1 (V1)]

floyd has suck a little fan base and no country behind him...he needs opponents that do. Canelo martinez ggg pacquiao all have huge fan base. Canelo is a fight he has to fight or else.
He cant generate big money on his own like these fighters can!

canelo and ggg have never headline a ppv so we dont know how big of a impact the have on sales and martinez never sold 1mill +

[PAC-BOY]

I disagree,,, Floyd vs Ghost still did over 900,000 which is way more than serg and chavez jr, which was a much bigger event with 2 huge fanbases and it only did 500,000 or so.....

I can see why you would think that with the numbers. But, dont hold much stock in JCCjr. He has a following but not as big. Everyone knows hes never fought anyone or done anything big in his career. Fans got bored with him.
Sergio on the other hand has. Im not 100% who raked in the most due to fan base, but if i had to bet it would be Sergio carried those numbers.

[StarPower]

that's the number showtime want us to believe but in reality it got only 500K ppv buys at the most.

thats why fraud jr is considered as the b-side on his fight with canelo.

I would take Mayweathers B-side equaling 40 mil over Canelos A-side equaling about 12 mil any day of the week.

[PAC-BOY]

canelo and ggg have never headline a ppv so we dont know how big of a impact the have on sales and martinez never sold 1mill +

True indeed. But if Floyd was fighting someone like Alexander...those numbers would be greatly lower than GGG Canelo or sergio. Floyd wouldn't sell a million or 500,000 for that matter with Alexander alone!

[FilMor]

the notion that you created a thread about floyd that doesn't involve hating is downright preposterous. but lets assume there is a blizzard in the desert.

Last ppv sales were not released. fat dan said 870k gbp/sho said over 1 mil. How did you get 850k?

Manny's best ppv's are cotto and odh-1.25 mil. Floyd's are 2.5 and 1.5. how is that close to hitting floyd's numbers?

canelo, matts, garcia, lara, and trout have never headlined a ppv but you say they will help sales. how did you reach this conclusion? do you have any evidence to support yur opinion?

I think it shows that if floyd does no pre fight promotion he is good enough to sell between 870k and 1. whatever million ppv's with a relatively unknown fighter. That suggests he's as big a draw that he claims but he must do whats necessary to sell the fight to the masses.

remember, you're not hating.

Mayweather was the B side to the ODLH fight, so that 2.5 million doesnt hold as much weight.