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  • #61
    Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
    Trust me, if there is a grievance, the BBBofC will pick it up and deal with it. But Scott didn't look too bothered with the ending and I haven't heard anything since.
    His team have filed a protest with the BBBoC within the last hour. I think they could overturn the decision but honestly I don't feel Scott wanted to continue, he's half-heartedly pretending he did but personally I don't believe he did.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
      No, I'm saying in his head he's thinking 'if he doesn't get up at 9, I'll end the fight'. Again, I'd be really interested to hear from the referee rather than the timekeeper or the officials at ringside who decided the result.

      Watching it back doesn't change my opinion. Makes me think that maybe the referee thought he was taking a knee and when he got up it was because the fight was over. Either way, the referee didn't do everything he could've possibly done in his power to continue the fight. However, Scott gave him too much reason to end it.

      Trust me, if there is a grievance, the BBBofC will pick it up and deal with it. But Scott didn't look too bothered with the ending and I haven't heard anything since.


      EDIT: The count ends once a fighter is stood-up, unless it's a standing 8, the referee can continue if he wants. Let's not be pedanitic about that.
      So you ask me for video, but you don't believe it? C'mon stop with bull****. You know exactly what happened, he counted him out at 9.

      It's clear you've made up your mind but don't want to admit that yore wrong wrong because you clearly are. You're just in justify mode now

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      • #63
        I think they should interview refs afterwards to see why they made a certain choice and what they saw

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        • #64
          Originally posted by DosRounds View Post
          I think they should interview refs afterwards to see why they made a certain choice and what they saw
          They did that with Cortez after the Ortiz farce and all he did was show how his pre-conceptions about the fighters influenced his decision-making. A lot of these refs are actually pretty braindead, I'd rather not hear what they have to say when they only confirm their incompetence.

          It was like getting Duane Ford to justify his Pac-Bradley scores, he just made an idiot out of himself.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
            They did that with Cortez after the Ortiz farce and all he did was show how his pre-conceptions about the fighters influenced his decision-making. A lot of these refs are actually pretty braindead, I'd rather not hear what they have to say when they only confirm their incompetence.

            It was like getting Duane Ford to justify his Pac-Bradley scores, he just made an idiot out of himself.
            I can see that happening but the ref sees things that we never saw. If the ref is truly incompetent then there would be no use interviewing them

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            • #66
              Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
              They did that with Cortez after the Ortiz farce and all he did was show how his pre-conceptions about the fighters influenced his decision-making. A lot of these refs are actually pretty braindead, I'd rather not hear what they have to say when they only confirm their incompetence.

              It was like getting Duane Ford to justify his Pac-Bradley scores, he just made an idiot out of himself.
              Just saw the Duane Ford thing now and he should be sacked

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              • #67
                Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                They did that with Cortez after the Ortiz farce and all he did was show how his pre-conceptions about the fighters influenced his decision-making. A lot of these refs are actually pretty braindead, I'd rather not hear what they have to say when they only confirm their incompetence.

                It was like getting Duane Ford to justify his Pac-Bradley scores, he just made an idiot out of himself.
                Here we go with the bull****. That is a horrible comparison. Cortez did absolutely nothing wrong. He had already told the fighters to fight on and just because he wasn't looking at the action when Mayweather threw the punches that ended the fight doesn't mean he would have tried to stop Mayweather from punching if he had been watching. Victor Ortiz just refused to fight or duck or put up his guard. In this case the referee clearly MADE A CHOICE to wave the fight off at the 9 count. He made a mistake and he seems to have known it by the look on his face. Not to say that he wouldn't defend his choice if he were ever brought to the athletic commission to testify. The referee that officiated the Bradley vs Campbell fight called a TKO after Bradley opened up a grotesque gash over Campbell's eye with a headbutt and Campbell was no longer able to continue. And even after having a few months to simmer on his decision he still stood behind it when brought to testify at the hearing to challenge the ruling brought by Campbell. Timothy Bradley himself even stood behind that decision just because he wanted to keep the TKO on his record (he desperately needs it). But justice was still served and that ridiculous ruling was over turned.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by peplz View Post
                  just because he wasn't looking at the action
                  Kind of crucial for the referee of a fight to be looking at the action, no?

                  I could take issue with the rest too, but it's been done to death already.

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                  • #69
                    Better to be too cautious than too lax? How about... better to do it RIGHT. Doing it RIGHT means you don't skroo-over either fighter. I agree with Lyle on this one. 10 means 10. Let the fight play out to it's natural finish. Don't be a Joe Cortez type ref. Way too much corruption in this sport.

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                    • #70
                      After years of reading articles on Boxingscene, this the first time that I have completely agreed with a Lyle Fitzsimmons article.

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