So Pacquiao fights tailormade foes but Mayweather doesn't?

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i don't understand is losing to paul williams awful? it's not like losing to baldomir or anything. i mean only a true sociopath would fight someone who just lost to baldomir and pretend it's a big fight.

Got you. But he did fight Baldomir next.

Would it be better if he fought the winner first then the loser? Kinda like Pac/Cotto followed by Pac/Clottey?

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Margo was a bigger and stronger version of Castillo.

Floyd ran in the first fight with Castillo cause he couldn't hurt him, Floyd had trouble hurting guys bast 130, he couldn't even knock Gatti out without hitting him when he was looking.

What Floyd fears is a fighter who has an iron chin or isn;t afraid to get hit, who has tons of stamina, punches you from everywhere, body head, and is relentless. He also doesn't like a fighter who moves a lot, he had trouble timing Cotto when Cotto got on his toes, once Cotto got on his toes Floyd got popped with jabs, and when he opens up he gets countered, its why he doesn't throw many combos he got rocked by Corley when he tried to mix it up, he got rocked by Mosley when he tried to mix it up, he got his nose and mouth busted by a slow shot Cotto when he tried to open up with combos. Floyd isn't willing to open up much, and the way he leans back like he did against a slow Guerrero he might get knocked out like Anderson Silva if he does that pull counter against a guy who can catch his chin with a quick power shot.

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Nice stuff. Agreed.

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Would be good if Floyd actually fought someone with decent foot speed instead of these flat footed fighters.

Such as? All Floyd has fought since 2010 is number 1-3 guys at 147 and 154, who's missing?

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So it's Pacquiao's fault he's been disadvantaged against much of his opposition and he hasn't always been expected to win. Gotcha.

Good fail. Mayweather won't fight Pacquiao because he's unwilling to assume that level liability and rarely if ever has. Well played.

Cong****, simp. You thought of the most obvious, rudimentary response available.You're deep man.

This is your problem. Sometimes the easiest answer is the best one, good common sense. You people look so hard into things to discredit guys you don't like and outthink yourselves.

Even your response made no sense

We want to tear Floyd down because people always bet their money on him and big Pacquiao up because he's been an underdog more?

Isn't it the greatest compliment to ones abilities that people will bet their money on him whether or not they like him?

[MayMosPeaHop]

FMJ opponents seem tailor made because of his skill level. In simple terms, FMJ will adjust to his opponent. FMJ negates his opponents strengths, while imposing his style on the opponent. Hence, the booing at a FMJ fight after 3 rounds. Everyone knows the fight is over and now has to sit through 7-8 more rounds because FMJ will keep his tactical discipline. Manny while skilled tries to impose his offense. Aggressively trying for the knockout. While there is nothing wrong with that, defense and tactical discipline matters. With that being said, has Manny fought more tailor made fighters in comparison to FMJ? YES, Manny's style and mentality requires that he does. Manny's mentality is his greatest strength and his greatest weakness. The JMM series(2004, 2008, 2011, and 2012) is a perfect example that Manny fights more tailor made opponents. I say this because the assumption between the timing of those fights is that Manny had improved, refined his skills. And the truth is, Manny had improved offensively and defensively, but still could not fully pass the JMM test due to his mentality. That mentality led to a failing grade in 2012. If you are the trainer or promoter, would you put your fighter in the ring with fighters similar to JMM or fighters similar to Hatton, Margarito, and Clottey. You do the right thing and fight Rios next.

Lastly, is Manny tailor made for FMJ? Of course, no further explanation should be needed.

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FMJ opponents seem tailor made because of his skill level. In simple terms, FMJ will adjust to his opponent. FMJ negates his opponents strengths, while imposing his style on the opponent. Hence, the booing at a FMJ fight after 3 rounds. Everyone knows the fight is over and now has to sit through 7-8 more rounds because FMJ will keep his tactical discipline. Manny while skilled tries to impose his offense. Aggressively trying for the knockout. While there is nothing wrong with that, defense and tactical discipline matters. With that being said, has Manny fought more tailor made fighters in comparison to FMJ? YES, Manny's style and mentality requires that he does. Manny's mentality is his greatest strength and his greatest weakness. The JMM series(2004, 2008, 2011, and 2012) is a perfect example that Manny fights more tailor made opponents. I say this because the assumption between the timing of those fights is that Manny had improved, refined his skills. And the truth is, Manny had improved offensively and defensively, but still could not fully pass the JMM test due to his mentality. That mentality led to a failing grade in 2012. If you are the trainer or promoter, would you put your fighter in the ring with fighters similar to JMM or fighters similar to Hatton, Margarito, and Clottey. You do the right thing and fight Rios next.

Lastly, is Manny tailor made for FMJ? Of course, no further explanation should be needed.

Great post, I see why this guy has so much red k, he knows what he's talking about lol

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FMJ opponents seem tailor made because of his skill level. In simple terms, FMJ will adjust to his opponent. FMJ negates his opponents strengths, while imposing his style on the opponent. Hence, the booing at a FMJ fight after 3 rounds. Everyone knows the fight is over and now has to sit through 7-8 more rounds because FMJ will keep his tactical discipline. Manny while skilled tries to impose his offense. Aggressively trying for the knockout. While there is nothing wrong with that, defense and tactical discipline matters. With that being said, has Manny fought more tailor made fighters in comparison to FMJ? YES, Manny's style and mentality requires that he does. Manny's mentality is his greatest strength and his greatest weakness. The JMM series(2004, 2008, 2011, and 2012) is a perfect example that Manny fights more tailor made opponents. I say this because the assumption between the timing of those fights is that Manny had improved, refined his skills. And the truth is, Manny had improved offensively and defensively, but still could not fully pass the JMM test due to his mentality. That mentality led to a failing grade in 2012. If you are the trainer or promoter, would you put your fighter in the ring with fighters similar to JMM or fighters similar to Hatton, Margarito, and Clottey. You do the right thing and fight Rios next.

Lastly, is Manny tailor made for FMJ? Of course, no further explanation should be needed.

I have never seen Floyd fight anyone similar to Josh Clottey or a winky wright style.

Or someone like timothy Bradley who can fighting backing up and in close and mix it up with movement. He never fought guys like that when he had the chance Joel Casamayor comes to mind.

Most of Floyds biggest wins are against come forward fighters. Also when Floyd fought the taiormade Oscar de la hoya he looked wack and almost lost a sd, Pacman destroyed him, and nobody gave Pacman a shot against Oscar.

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Margo was a bigger and stronger version of Castillo.

Floyd ran in the first fight with Castillo cause he couldn't hurt him, Floyd had trouble hurting guys bast 130, he couldn't even knock Gatti out without hitting him when he was looking.

What Floyd fears is a fighter who has an iron chin or isn;t afraid to get hit, who has tons of stamina, punches you from everywhere, body head, and is relentless. He also doesn't like a fighter who moves a lot, he had trouble timing Cotto when Cotto got on his toes, once Cotto got on his toes Floyd got popped with jabs, and when he opens up he gets countered, its why he doesn't throw many combos he got rocked by Corley when he tried to mix it up, he got rocked by Mosley when he tried to mix it up, he got his nose and mouth busted by a slow shot Cotto when he tried to open up with combos. Floyd isn't willing to open up much, and the way he leans back like he did against a slow Guerrero he might get knocked out like Anderson Silva if he does that pull counter against a guy who can catch his chin with a quick power shot.

Pretty ridiculous stuff. How far past the Castillo fights at 135 do we have to get before we realize it doesn't apply anymore? Not only has Floyd filled out, he's also improved.

Floyd controls the pace in all of his fights, he gets you into his game and lowers your punch output, no matter who you are. We've seen it time and again.

The attributes you describe is not a fighter Floyd fears, it's what you think a fighter must have to beat Floyd. Both of those times he got rocked, he recovered and continued to trade for the rest of the round! He even dominated every part if those fights afterward.

And the way Silva leaned back was not at all how you would lean back to throw the pull counter, night and day.

[MayMosPeaHop]

Margo was a bigger and stronger version of Castillo.

Floyd ran in the first fight with Castillo cause he couldn't hurt him, Floyd had trouble hurting guys bast 130, he couldn't even knock Gatti out without hitting him when he wasn't looking.

What Floyd fears is a fighter who has an iron chin or isn;t afraid to get hit, who has tons of stamina, punches you from everywhere, body head, and is relentless. He also doesn't like a fighter who moves a lot, he had trouble timing Cotto when Cotto got on his toes, once Cotto got on his toes Floyd got popped with jabs, and when he opens up he gets countered, its why he doesn't throw many combos he got rocked by Corley when he tried to mix it up, he got rocked by Mosley when he tried to mix it up, he got his nose and mouth busted by a slow shot Cotto when he tried to open up with combos. Floyd isn't willing to open up much, and the way he leans back like he did against a slow Guerrero he might get knocked out like Anderson Silva if he does that pull counter against a guy who can catch his chin with a quick power shot.

Your whole post was garbage. The simple fact is Bob Arum did not and does not believe Manny can beat FMJ. If Arum thought Manny could win, the fight would have happened back in 2009. Stop the charade, Manny would have had a punchers chance. No more no less and you know it.

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Pretty ridiculous stuff. How far past the Castillo fights at 135 do we have to get before we realize it doesn't apply anymore? Not only has Floyd filled out, he's also improved.

Floyd controls the pace in all of his fights, he gets you into his game and lowers your punch output, no matter who you are. We've seen it time and again.

The attributes you describe is not a fighter Floyd fears, it's what you think a fighter must have to beat Floyd. Both of those times he got rocked, he recovered and continued to trade for the rest of the round! He even dominated every part if those fights afterward.

And the way Silva leaned back was not at all how you would lean back to throw the pull counter, night and day.

Someone had a gif of Floyd leaning back from a pull counter and having his hands down, if Robert was fast enough eh could have countered him easy. Thats Canelos best chance to catch Floyd jabbing to the body like he does or pulling back from a pull counter. other than that he has no other chance.