Comments Thread For: Koncz: Mayweather is Scared He Will Lose To Pacquiao

[jbpanama]

Again with the crappy lies. The temporary stadium had nothing to do with Arum other than that MGM wanted the first fight in it to be the Pacquiao-Mayweather one. Arum said that it would hold more and allow cheaper seats for people who normally could not afford such a fight. MGM showed the blueprints to Arum and he made a statement about it. Arum also said that MannyP could NOT fight on May 5th because he bone-deep eye cut took 6 months to heal and the earliest the doctors said Pacquiao would be allowed to train was April. They didn't build the temp stadium because it was obvious that Mayweather wasn't going to fight; so they proceeded with their more permanent plans.

The temp stadium was the idea of MGM International, and was to be erected on a 10 acre plot of land that MGM owned. They are presently erecting a new stadium which is ongoing right now. It's has 20,000 seats, is on the Strip and is being built by AEG the world-famous sport's arena builders. It's been in the works for the past 6 years.

So put that in your ****** mouth and swallow it without water.

Will these DIMWITS understand that this is Vegas, On several occasion I've seen Stadiums erected on the Caesars Palace Tennis Courts, seating 20,000 + in 3 months....
Get Off the Stadium nonsense.....U DIMWITS!!!

[megadeth]

Regardless PAC KO's floyd. Floyd is a ducker and always will be ARg for sure but the guy is a ****ing ducker and infuriates me that people try and play off that he has clearly ducked fighters continuously. He ain't got the balls to fight ggg, PAC, prime cotto, Williams, marg, prime Mosley. Just a complete girl. Disgrace considering the amount t of talent he possess.

Pac couldn't KO Marquez in 4 fights. How does he KO Mayweather who has 3x better defense? Your dreaming!

Does Pac have the balls to face GGG?
Does he have the balls to face Canelo?

Don't give me that "he is too small" mess. If it doesn't work for Mayweather, then it doesn't work for Pac who's essentially the same size.

Did Pac fight Mayweather? NOPE! He didn't want to accept OSDT drug testing. You know, the testing that was so crazy that he himself has called for it to be implemented in his very next fight.

Did Pac fight a relevant Margarito when it was mentioned? NOPE! "We're not crazy".

Did he fight Mosley after he Ko'd Margarito? NOPE! "You're better than Oscar"ie " You're too good".

Did Pac fight Williams? NOPE! Williams called, but no answer!

Don't get it twisted! They accepted a fight w/ Cotto because he didn't look like the same fighter that he was before Margarito. Fought Margarito because he got Ko' d by Mosley and looked like garbage in his next fight after the YEAR suspension. Mosley because didn't look like the world beater that he had 2 years earlier, when they wanted nothing to do w/ him. He didn't even want to fight Marquez again until he had already looked bad against Floyd at WW and it was considered by many as a mismatch........then still looked terrible against him.
So, if you are gonna apply the ducker/cherrypicker title to Floyd, you had better do it as much, if not more for Pac. At least Floyd fights guys coming off of big wins and looking good.

[edgarg]

Excellent post. Journalists don't even bother to be so thorough. Are you Bob Arum?

Don't I wish I was. I could probably get to know him with a little effort. I respect him, not because of his promotions which are so important to the sport, but because of what he did anonymously for years for Gennaro Hernandez (and I'm sure many others) which only came out when he died. I happen to know for certain, because I've seen the lists, that he and his wife are the main donors of several charities (even founded one or two) and have been for many years.

I'm just a person who has been involved in boxing in one way or another for many years. And I have a very good memory, although it plays tricks sometimes, and there are some who know more than I do. But this guy isn't one of them...

What bugs me more than anything else is that kids and even older people who should know better, continually display their ignorance or lack of intelligence even when all the info is regularly spread over this site, which has very good writers and reporters. They MUST have read the stuff, because so many are regulars, but chose to ignore it because it suits their prejudices, which is hateful to me. So I get fed up once in a while and let go......

[Ringlife]

I have no interest watching this fight now this ship has sailed.

[edgarg]

Seriously, you can't be this ******. Arum claimed Pac couldn't fight on May 5 because of his eye injury. However, when Arum thought Mayweather was going to jail and would not be available on May 5, Arum planned to stage Pacquaio/Marquez IV on May 5. The ridiculous idea of a temporary stadium that couldn't be ready until June only came up after Mayweather's jail sentence was moved back to June 1 and he became available to fight on May 5. Bob Arum had to come up with another excuse to avoid staging the fight, so he came up wit this temporary stadium idea. The only person/entity who ever mentioned anything about a temporary stadium was Bob Arum.

Also, Arum never spoke to anyone in Mayweather's camp or GBP about staging a fight in May 2012. When Schafer tried to set up a meeting, Arum refused, claiming that he had already planned to stage Pacquaio/Marquez IV and had no interest in a Pac/Mayweather fight. How the hell can you make plans to build a stadium to host a fight when you haven't even spoke to the opposing camp about making a fight?

As Mayweather stated, there is a reason why he left Bob Arum. Pacquaio will understand this a few years after he retires when he realizes how much money he missed out on by allowing Arum to control his career.

Just Blah-Blah, hot air but coming from thr wrong end. You have things twisted around a bit me lad. You're quoting opinions as facts and you have nothing to back them up except other ignoramii like yourself. I apologise for being so rude but you leave me no alternative. I have to tell you plainly.

[edgarg]

This is the dumbest post I have seen in weeks on this site. How is it a well known fact that Pacquaio always walks away from his fights with from $25-30 mill. The only thing that is a known fact is what is listed in the contract that Bob Arum submits to the state athletic commission. In those contracts, Pacquaio's guarantee is always listed as between $5 and $8 million. Arum always claims that Pac will make over $20 million, but that is nothing more than a claim by Arum. There are no facts to back it up.

The rest of Pac's money comes from PPV sales. To earn $25 to $30 million, the fight would have to sell 1 million PPVs at $50 each. The cable company will take half of that and Arum would have to give all the remaining PPV revenue to Pac. Arum is too damn greedy to do that. I don't believe Pac makes more than $12 to $16 million per fight because his PPV's haven't been selling that well and he only gets a percentage of the PPV, not the entire pot. Arum always lies about the PPV numbers. I don't believe Pac has sold 1 million PPVs since the Margarito fight, which incidentally was the last time Arum allowed a network to release Pac's PPV numbers. I don't believe that his fights against Bradley, Mosley or his last fight against Marquez sold very well. Most of what I have just said is my opinion, but you have no facts that can dispute them.

Now, I will state some facts for you:

Fact 1: There is no law that says that a promoter has to take 27 percent of a fighters purse on top of what he already gets from PPV sales, ticket sales and sponsorships. Pac chose to sign that restrictive contract with Arum.

Fact 2: Fighters don't pay for their own hotel expenses and training expenses. Those things are paid by the promoter. If he brings an entourage of unnecessary people with him, then the fighter will be responsible for those expenses.

Fact 3: Pacquaio could have fired Roach at any point in time and hired another quality trainer for less money or renegotiated their contract. Pac chooses to continue to pay him 10 percent of his purse. De La Hoya only paid Roach $500,000 to train him for the Mayweather fight and Oscar had a $25 million guarantee for that fight.

Fact 4: Nowhere on this planet or any other planet does a $6 million guarantee net a fighter more than a $40 million guarantee. Even if he received no cut of the PPV, the $40 million that Mayweather offered Pacquaio would have been twice as much as Pac has ever made in a fight, gross or net. That is just my opinion, but again, you have no facts (not Bob Arum lies) that can dispute this opinion.

I stopped when you said that 1 million PPVs at $50 each amounts to $25-30 mill and the PPV people take half of that. I reluctantly skimmed over the rest of it. It's a pity that in mid-summer we have to contend with slush... Most or all of the rest of your crap before that was irrelevant, actually accepting my points which you still disputed in the most ridiculous fashion. very single damned thing I wrote was published on this site and generally were direct quotes of interviews or calculations and statements made by the expert boxing writers. You're just blowing hot air that you think has substance because you're satisfied with your "knowledge"...... You make accusations without a single jot of proof. You are badly bitten with "Arum-itis". It's called a disguised way of hating ***s. You accuse him of the most ridiculous criminal acts when Pacquiao is surrounded by accountants and lawyers up to his neck. Arum himself is a Summa Cum Laude (if you know what that means...) Harvard lawyer.

He wouldn't dream of getting himself involved in anything so openly criminal that even a DUMBO like you could spot it.

He had a taste of that when he and 40 others were caught bribing the IBF(I think?) top guy to get better rankings for his fighters. Almost every Promoter was compromised, but it took Arum telling the truth under oath to reveal the whole thing. A lawyer has a sort of genetic respect for a statement under oath. I kow this positively, unless the guy is a criminal beyond redemption.

Control yourself and get a grip.....

I think I glanced at something you said about Pacquiao able to leave Freddie Roach, completely ignoring the intent of my comment that MannyP is convinced that his boxing prowess is due to him. Why the hell would he leave him?? Maybe the all-wise you know...I don't.

I also clearly explained that the low (seeming) "guarantee" that Pacquiao and others announce is BECAUSE THE COMMISSION RULES STIPULATE THAT THAT AMOUNT MUST BE PAID TO THE FIGHTER IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIGHT. So I saying it again just for YOU darling... The major revenue of a top fight takes about a year to finally close the books on. The promoters have to lay out a large sum of money and the less the announced guarantee is the better they can handle it.

I don't make up imaginary scenarios in my mind and try to foist it on an ignorant fan base as being fact-like some do....not you of course......

Poor lad you've allowed the worry about Pacquiao's future to seep into your brain.

I believe that many promoters take about 30 to 33%. Arum gets a VERY WELL PUBLICIZED 27%. I don't think that anyone who really knows anything bout the boxing game does not know this.

THIS IS WHAT A PROMOTER DOES..... "A boxing promoter is in charge of setting up and paying for everything involved in a boxing match and making sure all legal requirements are met at every step along the way. The promoter assumes all financial risk associated with the event, whether that means the promoter is paying for the event him- or herself or is securing a number of secondary investors to guarantee the costs are met. And when we talk about costs, we're talking about every single thing involved in a fighting event, from the plastic cups the beer is served in to the chairs for each corner of the ring to the ring itself, the round-number girl, the referee, the ticket sales, advertising, licenses and making sure the scales used for weigh-in are properly calibrated. A big-time promoter will often contract out a lot of the details, while a small-time promoter is probably standing in line at the state boxing commission's office to obtain the necessary licenses for a fight and is measuring the ring dimensions to make sure its up to code. But either way, the promoter is ultimately responsible if anything doesn't meet legal requirements or if something goes wrong and the ambulance isn't waiting right outside the venue with exactly two qualified paramedics.

Got that??.......phew....

[Reloaded]

Big Jim, The Stadium is Happening NOW!!! Have U ever Been to Vegas???
They put up a Temporary Stadium, with 25,000 seats on the Caesars Palace
Tennis Courts, for Holmes Ali, in 1980, in about 4 months!!!! I was There, and
knew the Guy that erected it....so get off the DUMBO Stadium Kick...OK???

Grow up kid .

Manny has been a dead fish on this forum lately , he comes out talking Mayweather and is in the threads again , its the same ol story with Manny .

He should have took the 50/50 offer when it was on the table , but instead he ran away from the biggest fight in history because of a PEDS test he now demands on his B grade face first , are you idiots for real lol .

[edgarg]

Edgar has his Facts down to a Tee....
The question is, Can some of U NUT Cases,
Grasp what he's telling Ya???

Hello there JB glad to see you on. It almost looks as if we might have to fight these half-wits back-to-back. But I'm glad to see a few other posters you've found who have logical, enquiring minds and don't accept all the drek from guys like Big James. I think the"Big" refers to the width between his ears which is "over-spacious".....

You might like to read "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Lapses" by Mark Twain. It's about 9 pages and by just typing in the name you can get it on any internet page. Talking about Big James' space between his ears reminded me of something in it. I've read all Fenimore Cooper's stuff, and maybe you have too, and the sheer humour of Twain is unequalled. And to think it was written almost 150 years ago.... I've been reading it periodically since I was a child. Keep in touch.

[edgarg]

True Story, SHOWTIME said....No Mas to No Hoppers!!!
Let's see if our Hero, the ROIDMASTER, takes the
GGG Challenge???
Anyone out there think He Will???

Not unless he positively KNOW that Golovkin can't make 154 without cutting off a leg. Mayweather is very self-protective. All that "Pretty-Boy" crap went to his head and ruined him, even making him think he was good-looking. Not that he was noticeably stable before.

His crazies never seemed to get the fact that the "Pretty-Boy" nickname came about only because his name happened to be Floyd.....like the gangster Pretty-Boy Floyd; the machine gun gangster Charlie Floyd who had that nickname. This one has lasted much longer than the original, but I think that this is because Pretty-Boy Floyd robbed banks and this "Pretty-Boy" only robs fans' wallets.

[edgarg]

Pac had too much CLASS, to accept it...To some CHUMPS, money is God....
I think Pac is Comfortable....and how much Kobe Beef, and Lobster can U Eat,
all U DUMBOS, have problems relating.....FACT!!!

Also,being under contract to Top Rank and having to pay horrendous taxes he would have come out of that fight with probably not more than $10 mill, unless some strong accounting wangling was allowed by the IRS. While Mayflower walked away with anything up to $100 mill, mainly earned by Pacquiao's global celebrity status.

He'd have been a fool to take it and Mayweather cut the conversation off immediately when MannyP counter-offered. Yes he did suggest 50-50 and then suggested he'd pay Mayweather $50 mill with the same conditions that he'd offered. Of course, being just a quick chat over the phone, no real conditions nor contract could have been discussed so the whole thing was a set-up for PR purposes to satisfy Mayweather's shredding ego. I can't recall if it was before or after the massive settlement he had to pay out for his slanders etc. but he needed an ego boost just then and this satisfied him. Cheap publicity, forgotten in a few hours-except by his slavering lovers on BoxingScene.