If the Klitschkos were two brothers from Detroit or Philadelphia...

[The Hammer]

So if its all about colour tell me why Larry Holmes wasnt adored, why Bradley, Alexander, Ward, Hopkins aren't loved and revered by Americans.

I wasn't talking about the Klitschkos not being loved and revered, it's about the Klitschkos being hated.

Interestingly, the most OBSESSIVE Klitschko haters are fans and supporters of those very fighters you name, especially Holmes, Ward and Hopkins.

Also Mayweather fans (Big Dunn, etc) and Haye fans (yourself, Jedi Vader, etc).

Tell me why Lennox Lewis wasnt loved.

He may not have been loved (he would have been though if he were an American) but he never had the obsessive haters that the Klitschkos have.

Some like chocolate and some like vanilla. Different strokes for different folks. It's all good.

But if people don't like vanilla, they shouldn't obsessively go on and on about it, and be on a mission to convince the world that vanilla is no good.

[techliam]

'I've never been to Ukraine but I have heard it's very dangerous for a black man.
There are crazy racists who have already sent me death threats. So Germany would be the best and safest place for me to beat Vitali and get out of the stadium alive.'

- David Haye

Typical racial bias and prejudice, a dumb and ignorant comment aimed at Slavic people.

Well Russia is more to blame here, Neo-**** groups roaming around everywhere, St Petersburg, Moscow you name it. I believe this comment was made around the time of the Football racism row where Indian (?) fans where beat up by racist thugs in Ukraine.

You can't deny theres a serious racial problem in Eastern Europe right now. It's not a national characteristic, and I don't believe that comment was aimed at ALL Slavic people at all - that's something you've devised as an attack on Haye. He said there are crazy racists, and there are quite a few around there.

As a white person myself, I don't feel safe in Ukraine or Russia. I think Haye used to issue to get a fight in Germany, for whatever reason is only known to him

[LacedUp]

I wasn't talking about the Klitschkos not being loved and revered, it's about the Klitschkos being hated.

Interestingly, the most OBSESSIVE Klitschko haters are fans and supporters of those very fighters you name, especially Holmes, Ward and Hopkins.

Also Mayweather fans (Big Dunn, etc) and Haye fans (yourself, Jedi Vader, etc).
He may not have been loved (he would have been though if he were an American) but he never had the obsessive haters that the Klitschkos have.

Some like chocolate and some like vanilla. Different strokes for different folks. It's all good.

But if people don't like vanilla, they shouldn't obsessively go on and on about it, and be on a mission to convince the world that vanilla is no good.

So by that logic I easily say that Klitschko fans are equally obsessive haters when it comes to Haye. 3/4 of people who comment on Haye threads are Klitschko fans.

So it goes both ways brother.

[The Hammer]

So by that logic I easily say that Klitschko fans are equally obsessive haters when it comes to Haye. 3/4 of people who comment on Haye threads are Klitschko fans.

So it goes both ways brother.

But if David Haye were somewhat respectful and sportsmanlike as other opponents were (such as Calvin Brock, Tony Thompson and Eddie Chambers) Klitschko fans wouldn't have taken such a dislike to him as we did.

It seemed every day there was a headline here and on other sites quoting something nasty from Haye about the Klitschkos.

[Weltschmerz]

Well Russia is more to blame here, Neo-**** groups roaming around everywhere, St Petersburg, Moscow you name it. I believe this comment was made around the time of the Football racism row where Indian (?) fans where beat up by racist thugs in Ukraine.

You can't deny theres a serious racial problem in Eastern Europe right now. It's not a national characteristic, and I don't believe that comment was aimed at ALL Slavic people at all - that's something you've devised as an attack on Haye. He said there are crazy racists, and there are quite a few around there.

As a white person myself, I don't feel safe in Ukraine or Russia. I think Haye used to issue to get a fight in Germany, for whatever reason is only known to him

As if there are no white racists in the UK. If you don't feel safe as a white person in eastern Europe or Russia, maybe you should visit that region, people are generally friendly.

[Weltschmerz]

So by that logic I easily say that Klitschko fans are equally obsessive haters when it comes to Haye. 3/4 of people who comment on Haye threads are Klitschko fans.

So it goes both ways brother.

Of course, beacause that guy is the biggest undeserving twat ever. If you're a fan of David Haye, you're most likely a twat yourself. I mean who can like a man like that?

[LacedUp]

But if David Haye were somewhat respectful and sportsmanlike as other opponents were (such as Calvin Brock, Tony Thompson and Eddie Chambers) Klitschko fans wouldn't have taken such a dislike to him as we did.

It seemed every day there was a headline here and on other sites quoting something nasty from Haye about the Klitschkos.

I don't believe that's necessarily true.

Most Klitschko fans, if they are honest, recognize(d) Haye as the biggest threat to their throne. If he was crap, then nobody would have cared what he had to say. But you wanted Klitschko to beat him so bad because it was his biggest rival, hence the interest and therefore hate grew as the days went by.

As you can see though, hate goes both ways. But the Klitschkos don't have anywhere near the same amount of haters as someone like Mayweather for example.

[LacedUp]

Of course, beacause that guy is the biggest undeserving twat ever. If you're a fan of David Haye, you're most likely a twat yourself. I mean who can like a man like that?

Just go back to the hole you came from.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

If they were black guys from detroit or philly then all the blacks would love them, and all the euro's would hate on them....
Sad to say but thats how it is,,,,
All the floyd fanboys would be all over the klits if they were from the hood.....
I think most boxing fans that give them props now, would still give them props regardless of where you come from....
It would only be the fanboys that would change their tune...
Just like if ***** was white, do you really think he would get like 98% of the black vote.... of course not...

[techliam]

As if there are no white racists in the UK. If you don't feel safe as a white person in eastern Europe or Russia, maybe you should visit that region, people are generally friendly.

I didn't say this at all. Never said anything about the UK not having any racists at all. The problem just isn't as widespread here. I gave my opinion, just please refrain in future from putting words in my mouth and making assumptions. Thanks!