Comments Thread For: Klitschko-Povetkin: Network Bidding War Could Erupt

[Ravens Fan]

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See, this is a bunch of BS. If you weren't trying to attack me personally you wouldn't have even have mentioned me negatively to another poster when I hadn't even spoken to you. Now you're deflecting because you know its you who started this crap. Sorry my friend, but that makes you just as immature and a hypocrite on top of that.


Now you're just being judgmental. Does "your way" make it right? And why don't you feel the same way about those who continually overrate and defend the Klits at all costs? Seems to be a hypocritical double standard to bash one and not the other. I guess if it suits your agenda its ok though.



Lol, enough said? The fact is neither HBO or Showtime have been bending over backwards to get the Klits back tells us they don't bring in good numbers. Why were/are fighters like Manny, GGG, Trinidad, Mattysse, Chavez, Duran etc., able to continually bring in American viewers even though a major language barrier? The Answer is excitement. Hate to break it to you my man, but Wlad hasn't been exciting in a decade.

Wasn't it you that claimed that I was overly sensitive? Wasn't it you that called me fairy man and claimed I was, what was it, butt hurt? While all this time it was actually you that was being overly sensitive. So, maybe you are not such a tough guy after all?

If I have not made it clear the term hater was not intended as a personal attack. I am even a hater I am a Fury hater and I was also a Haye hater and I sure as hell have no reason to be in denial about it.

And it is actually easy to see that I am a hater. Because all you would have to do is read what I have said about the two of them. Although I have chilled a bit on Haye simply because I hope he knocks the snot out of Fury. But as I have already said hater is just a general term and I truly don't hate any fighters. Just as I assume that you don't have any true hatred for the Klit brothers.

As for you believing that I am being judgmental I don't see it that way. I believe I was just pointing out the obvious because you seem a bit to obsessed and it seems to be much more to it then you just believing that the two bros are boring. I also believe that many of our fellow forum members would agree with that statement.

As far as the bros are concerned they both have one foot in retirement they are worth $100 million between them and they will most likely be in the Hall of Fame in the not so distant future. So, I doubt that they are overly concerned about HBO or Showtime. I know I am not because it actually makes it easier for me to watch them when they are on ESPN and Epix. By the way you admitted that you are immature so just maybe you can turn it around.

[JAB5239]

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Wasn't it you that claimed that I was overly sensitive? Wasn't it you that called me fairy man and claimed I was, what was it, butt hurt? While all this time it was actually you that was being overly sensitive. So, maybe you are not such a tough guy after all?

I never claimed to be a tough guy, you said that. And you're obviously oversensitive if my opinions bother you so much.

If I have not made it clear the term hater was not intended as a personal attack. I am even a hater I am a Fury hater and I was also a Haye hater and I sure as hell have no reason to be in denial about it.

And it is actually easy to see that I am a hater. Because all you would have to do is read what I have said about the two of them. Although I have chilled a bit on Haye simply because I hope he knocks the snot out of Fury. But as I have already said hater is just a general term and I truly don't hate any fighters. Just as I assume that you don't have any true hatred for the Klit brothers.

I've said many times I don't hate the Klits, have complimented them a plenty and hold Wlad in high regard historically. Unfortunately it bothers people like yourself that I find him boring.

As for you believing that I am being judgmental I don't see it that way. I believe I was just pointing out the obvious because you seem a bit to obsessed and it seems to be much more to it then you just believing that the two bros are boring. I also believe that many of our fellow forum members would agree with that statement.

You're not being judgmental? Than why not call me "obsessed" when I say Wlad will crack the top 10 all time? Or when I have both him and Vits in my all time h2h top 10? I'll tell you why...because that suits what you want to hear, its as simple as that. Now let me ask this AGAIN since you conveniently ducked it last time. Why don't you feel the same towards the "obsessed" fans who continually overrate the Klits and d*ck ride them? You seem to want to come off as objective and impartial but are only succeeding in being hypocritical if you don't hold those people in the same contempt.

As far as the bros are concerned they both have one foot in retirement they are worth $100 million between them and they will most likely be in the Hall of Fame in the not so distant future. So, I doubt that they are overly concerned about HBO or Showtime. I know I am not because it actually makes it easier for me to watch them when they are on ESPN and Epix. By the way you admitted that you are immature so just maybe you can turn it around.

Unfortunately none of this changes the fact neither Showtime or HBO has been clamoring for either of them, which was my initial point after you interjected yourself calling me "hater" and "tough guy".

As far as me being immature....there have been countless times it has happened and will happen again. Why? because this is entertainment to me, that's it. Unlike some on here who post all day, everyday here and multiple other sites, I have a life. when I do come on here Im going to enjoy myself though. If you think that makes me any less knowledgeable about this sport though you're quite mistaken. You don't have to like or agree with me or my opinions, but 99% of the time I can back them up logically (see this thread) or with facts.

[Ravens Fan]

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I never claimed to be a tough guy, you said that. And you're obviously oversensitive if my opinions bother you so much.



I've said many times I don't hate the Klits, have complimented them a plenty and hold Wlad in high regard historically. Unfortunately it bothers people like yourself that I find him boring.



You're not being judgmental? Than why not call me "obsessed" when I say Wlad will crack the top 10 all time? Or when I have both him and Vits in my all time h2h top 10? I'll tell you why...because that suits what you want to hear, its as simple as that. Now let me ask this AGAIN since you conveniently ducked it last time. Why don't you feel the same towards the "obsessed" fans who continually overrate the Klits and d*ck ride them? You seem to want to come off as objective and impartial but are only succeeding in being hypocritical if you don't hold those people in the same contempt.



Unfortunately none of this changes the fact neither Showtime or HBO has been clamoring for either of them, which was my initial point after you interjected yourself calling me "hater" and "tough guy".

As far as me being immature....there have been countless times it has happened and will happen again. Why? because this is entertainment to me, that's it. Unlike some on here who post all day, everyday here and multiple other sites, I have a life. when I do come on here Im going to enjoy myself though. If you think that makes me any less knowledgeable about this sport though you're quite mistaken. You don't have to like or agree with me or my opinions, but 99% of the time I can back them up logically (see this thread) or with facts.

It is only my opinion that you seem a bit obsessed. It is only my opinion that you are a bit immature with the silly name calling. And I believe that it is pretty lame that questioning peoples sexuality that you know nothing about is your form of entertainment. Honestly it doesn't bother me I just believe that it is uncalled for and serves no purpose. But than again you are doing it to entertain yourself.

It also doesn't matter when you wanted to fight someone over a disagreement on the internet simply because you obviously haven't changed much. It is also absolutely ridiculous for a grown man to act in such a manner. And that is coming from someone that grew up around some pretty hard core folks. But again that is just my opinion.

I have also never questioned your knowledge of boxing and you are certainly free to feel about the Klit bros anyway you wish. As for me questioning Klit nuthuggers I have in fact done so. I also thought that I had answered that question but it slipped by me. What can I say I am not a young man.

I have stated that I believed that the bros were picking pretty soft opponents and especially when some were trying to pass Wach off as a legit opponent. That was actually pretty laughable in my opinion.

I have also stated that I am of the opinion that the Lewis-Vit fight was a legit stoppage and Lennox won fair and some fans need to get passed the fact that Vitali lost. I find some of the arguments about that fight to be down right ridiculous.

I don't even blame Lennox for not fighting a rematch. After all he was getting old and past his prime and I can find little fault with his decision. The post are out there on this forum and you are free to read them.

So maybe the bottom line is that it is not always about what you say but also about how you say it. Which you are certainly free to do just as I am free to respond as I see fit.

[I Love Jesus!]

I love watching Wladimir fight. I expect a technical schooling before a brutal KO.

yeah hes so exciting hbo had to refuse to televise his matches for fear of their audience having a heart attack from all the action.

[I Love Jesus!]

the most exciting thing wald ever did was get knocked out by brewster that fight was amazing. That time he got KTFO by Sanders was also amazing what a punch that was u gotta admit

[JAB5239]

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It is only my opinion that you seem a bit obsessed. It is only my opinion that you are a bit immature with the silly name calling. And I believe that it is pretty lame that questioning peoples sexuality that you know nothing about is your form of entertainment. Honestly it doesn't bother me I just believe that it is uncalled for and serves no purpose. But than again you are doing it to entertain yourself.

You're the pot calling the kettle black since it is you who started the name calling. And it's obvious that many of my opinions on the Klits bother you or you would simply try and counter then instead of spouting "he's just a hater". And when did I question anyone's sexuality? Calling you a fairy was reference to you being easily offended. "It doesn't matter one bit to me which way you swing.

It also doesn't matter when you wanted to fight someone over a disagreement on the internet simply because you obviously haven't changed much. It is also absolutely ridiculous for a grown man to act in such a manner. And that is coming from someone that grew up around some pretty hard core folks. But again that is just my opinion.

Look, stop flat out lying. Do you need me to post a link to the Klitschko nuthugger who "challenged" me to fight? All I did was respond if he wants to come to me that's fine. Kind of like the other Klit d*ck rider Mr. Incredible doing the same thing with me. Ironically both those clowns have been perma-banned. I told you this is ****s a giggles for me. I don't have the time nor desire to fight any internet tough guys. Im certainly not going to kiss anyones ass though and if someone is actually so hurt over the internet they come looking to fight than so be it. So do me a favor and get your facts straight before spewing lies, ok?

I have also never questioned your knowledge of boxing and you are certainly free to feel about the Klit bros anyway you wish. As for me questioning Klit nuthuggers I have in fact done so. I also thought that I had answered that question but it slipped by me. What can I say I am not a young man.

In comparison to those you disagree with its not even close. I've questioned guys slamming the Klits, so going by your logic I'm as fair and objective as yourself.

I have stated that I believed that the bros were picking pretty soft opponents and especially when some were trying to pass Wach off as a legit opponent. That was actually pretty laughable in my opinion.

Wow....I've stated both brothers would be top contenders if not champions in any era. So what makes it ok for you to say you're reasonable but I am not? As I said, I can back up 99% of what I post logically or with facts. You just don't like hearing it so its easier to just say "hater" than debate it.

I have also stated that I am of the opinion that the Lewis-Vit fight was a legit stoppage and Lennox won fair and some fans need to get passed the fact that Vitali lost. I find some of the arguments about that fight to be down right ridiculous.

I don't even blame Lennox for not fighting a rematch. After all he was getting old and past his prime and I can find little fault with his decision. The post are out there on this forum and you are free to read them.

And I've stated Wlad current style is much more effective than before he had Manny in his corner. Just because I find it boring doesn't mean I don't appreciate the fact he does what he has to do to win.

You see my man, we can go round and round like this forever because EVERYTHING you say you do and don't do...I can say the same as my posts are also out there and free for you or anyone else to read.

So maybe the bottom line is that it is not always about what you say but also about how you say it. Which you are certainly free to do just as I am free to respond as I see fit.

As it is with you and everyone else here. Some things you want to hear and others you don't. So I'll make a suggestion I've made to MANY Klitschko fans...lets just discuss boxing. I won't insult you, you don't insult me. None of the "he's a hater", he's a nuthugger" business from either side. I think this is a fair proposition that I'm willing to abide by if you are. And here's some green K to show no ill will.

[Ravens Fan]

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You're the pot calling the kettle black since it is you who started the name calling. And it's obvious that many of my opinions on the Klits bother you or you would simply try and counter then instead of spouting "he's just a hater". And when did I question anyone's sexuality? Calling you a fairy was reference to you being easily offended. "It doesn't matter one bit to me which way you swing.



Look, stop flat out lying. Do you need me to post a link to the Klitschko nuthugger who "challenged" me to fight? All I did was respond if he wants to come to me that's fine. Kind of like the other Klit d*ck rider Mr. Incredible doing the same thing with me. Ironically both those clowns have been perma-banned. I told you this is ****s a giggles for me. I don't have the time nor desire to fight any internet tough guys. Im certainly not going to kiss anyones ass though and if someone is actually so hurt over the internet they come looking to fight than so be it. So do me a favor and get your facts straight before spewing lies, ok?



In comparison to those you disagree with its not even close. I've questioned guys slamming the Klits, so going by your logic I'm as fair and objective as yourself.




Wow....I've stated both brothers would be top contenders if not champions in any era. So what makes it ok for you to say you're reasonable but I am not? As I said, I can back up 99% of what I post logically or with facts. You just don't like hearing it so its easier to just say "hater" than debate it.



And I've stated Wlad current style is much more effective than before he had Manny in his corner. Just because I find it boring doesn't mean I don't appreciate the fact he does what he has to do to win.

You see my man, we can go round and round like this forever because EVERYTHING you say you do and don't do...I can say the same as my posts are also out there and free for you or anyone else to read.



As it is with you and everyone else here. Some things you want to hear and others you don't. So I'll make a suggestion I've made to MANY Klitschko fans...lets just discuss boxing. I won't insult you, you don't insult me. None of the "he's a hater", he's a nuthugger" business from either side. I think this is a fair proposition that I'm willing to abide by if you are. And here's some green K to show no ill will.

I believe that the term hater is used *******ly on the forum. If you took offense to it, even if I was wrong, your are most likely the only one on the entire forum to do so.

As for terms such as fairy and a$$ hurt they don't normally come up in conversations I have. I also didn't realize that fairies of any type are easily offended. I guess your a$$ hurt comments could also be you showing concern because of a possible hemorrhoid problem? Nah, you don't care about my health and any reasonable person would understand the implication of your words.

I also need no link to any crazy people. I do understand the guy challenged your manhood and you reacted. I have to ask did he really push your buttons so much that you really felt a need to post pics of yourself and tell him were you were located?

Not only did I believe that to be beyond immature it was down right ****** as well. What if he showed up at your gym with a gun? Personally I would only be concerned if they actually showed up at my door step uninvited. And honestly I have nothing to prove and I would most likely shut and lock the door and dial 911. But what the hell to each his own.

You asked if I have ever disagreed with Klit nuthuggers and I answered the question. If that is not good enough so be it.

I also want to point out that since May you have had 200 postings and 70 of them have had something to do with one or both of the Klit bros. Yes, I counted them, what can I say I was bored.

Yet, there were no postings bout Bhop. That was the other fighter you said was boring and only one about Floyd. The other fighter you said was boring or was it that you just don't like him. So, maybe you are right and I was wrong and your not a Klit hater. Just possibly your a Klit super fan that is in say very deep denial. Notice I didn't say nuthugger so not to offend you. I promise I am done.

[JAB5239]

I believe that the term hater is used *******ly on the forum. If you took offense to it, even if I was wrong, your are most likely the only one on the entire forum to do so.

Quit trying to cover the fact that you indeed started the name calling. You were being derogatory by definition. Its irrelevant how "*******ly" it is used on this forum.

As for terms such as fairy and a$$ hurt they don't normally come up in conversations I have. I also didn't realize that fairies of any type are easily offended. I guess your a$$ hurt comments could also be you showing concern because of a possible hemorrhoid problem? Nah, you don't care about my health and any reasonable person would understand the implication of your words.

You're still on about this, huh? Is there something you want to get off your chest and come out about? My words had nothing to do with anyone's sexual orientation. Seems to me only someone in the proverbial closet would take such offense. Whatever, I'm not here to judge.

I also need no link to any crazy people. I do understand the guy challenged your manhood and you reacted. I have to ask did he really push your buttons so much that you really felt a need to post pics of yourself and tell him were you were located?

It was in the thunderdome and there are more than one posts of me saying how amusing I thought it was. Tell me, where exactly am I located?

Not only did I believe that to be beyond immature it was down right ****** as well. What if he showed up at your gym with a gun? Personally I would only be concerned if they actually showed up at my door step uninvited. And honestly I have nothing to prove and I would most likely shut and lock the door and dial 911. But what the hell to each his own.

Oh but of course you do, its easy to be judgmental about someone over the internet. I concern myself little with online tough guys and don't mind amusing myself at their expense. You on the other hand sound like a little worry wart. But what the hell, to each his own.

You asked if I have ever disagreed with Klit nuthuggers and I answered the question. If that is not good enough so be it.

And I've supported and complimented the Klits on many occasions. (sigh) If that's not good enough for me to not be called a hater....so be it.

I also want to point out that since May you have had 200 postings and 70 of them have had something to do with one or both of the Klit bros. Yes, I counted them, what can I say I was bored.

Lmao!!! Don't ever call someone "obsessed" and then comb their post history...it's hypocritical. I wonder, did you count how many of those posts were of the same nature as this one? You know, ones that have nothing to do with either Klit but are arguing with guys like you about things like this for entertainment value? I'd bet the number would come down significantly.

Yet, there were no postings bout Bhop. That was the other fighter you said was boring and only one about Floyd. The other fighter you said was boring or was it that you just don't like him. So, maybe you are right and I was wrong and your not a Klit hater. Just possibly your a Klit super fan that is in say very deep denial. Notice I didn't say nuthugger so not to offend you. I promise I am done.

I simply don't like Floyd. And I criticized Floyd plenty in the past, but he continues to win and beat very good fighters. You see the difference between Hop, Floyd and the Klits is they have taken on quality comp the majority of their career as elite fighters. The Klits have ONE sure fire hall of famer on their combined resumes and that was a TKO6. So until their nuthuggers stop building shrines and worshipping on their knees (no pun intended, I know you're sensitive about the way I word things) I'll keep pointing out deficiencies and how very boring they are. I'll continue to supply facts like I did about why HBO dropped them.

Now you're done Tinkerbelle.

[HWChampion]

I simply don't like Floyd. And I criticized Floyd plenty in the past, but he continues to win and beat very good fighters. You see the difference between Hop, Floyd and the Klits is they have taken on quality comp the majority of their career as elite fighters. The Klits have ONE sure fire hall of famer on their combined resumes and that was a TKO6. So until their nuthuggers stop building shrines and worshipping on their knees (no pun intended, I know you're sensitive about the way I word things) I'll keep pointing out deficiencies and how very boring they are. I'll continue to supply facts like I did about why HBO dropped them.

Now you're done Tinkerbelle.

Hall of famer? Please corrales is in the HOF don't take that **** serious. 2 weight world champion Haye is easily in hall of fame. Undisputed cruiser weight champ, and 2nd greatest cruiserweight outside of Holyfield.

[JAB5239]

Hall of famer? Please corrales is in the HOF don't take that **** serious. 2 weight world champion Haye is easily in hall of fame. Undisputed cruiser weight champ, and 2nd greatest cruiserweight outside of Holyfield.

Lol, this is what Im talking about, Klit fans trying to deny and justify to make their guy look better. Floyd has no less than 8 fighters on his resume that are or will be in the HOF. And get real with trying to blow Haye up. He was 2-1 in title fights and fought a very weak resume at cruiser. By the way...Corrales was favored over Floyd. When was the last time Wlad was the underdog in a world championship fight and won? Just goes to show the difference in comp.