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  • boliodogs
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    #71
    I am sorry for spelling Brook's name wrong. I forgot to proof read my post.

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    • Prince Mongo
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Same here. I am a fan of both guys but the Brook-only fans seem to have a chip on their shoulder which is funny considering Kell has fought no one of significance whilst Amir Khan is a proven world class fighter.
      Originally posted by wazaa.
      I'm getting sick and tired of posters still mentioning the Peterson fight.

      1. The majority had Khan winning (including the 2 points deductions)
      2. Peterson was using performance enhancement drugs

      How come Khan isn't world class if he was in a competitive fight with a top 10 fighter of the same division, who oh by the way was cheating to enhance his performance?

      On top of that, many feel that a pressure inside fighter would be Amir's kryptonite. Peterson is just that. IMO, the best inside fighter of the 140 division at that time.

      So what it comes down to is that Amir overcame his kryptonite on PED's.

      Pretty impressive if you ask me
      I am getting sick and tired of Khan fans harping on about the RESULT of the Peterson fight. The truth is regardless of the RESULT Khan's performance was dreadful. He showed a complete inability to cope with pressure and no inside game. It was his performance not the result that makes me question him as a true world class fighter. Peterson is not that good on PEDs or not.

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        #73
        depends what khans eaten,

        Onion badgies, then khan by breath ko,

        If khan eats fish and chips with curry sauce, brook takes this via ko

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        • LacedUp
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          #74
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I don't think as much of Khan as you do. His close get of the canvas win over mediocre Diaz tells me Khan is not anywhere near as good as he used to be when he beat Maidana and Judah.I think Alexander will knock him out and Brook would do the same.They are both much bigger, better and harder punching fighters than Diaz. If Khan beats Alexander then he might beat Brock as well but I think Alexander will beat Khan.
          Harder punchers and Alexander shouldn't go in the same sentence.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Prince Mongo
            I am getting sick and tired of Khan fans harping on about the RESULT of the Peterson fight. The truth is regardless of the RESULT Khan's performance was dreadful. He showed a complete inability to cope with pressure and no inside game. It was his performance not the result that makes me question him as a true world class fighter. Peterson is not that good on PEDs or not.
            Khan arguably beat the best inside fighter of the 140 division at that time. Why are you ignoring this fact? On top of that Peterson was using PED's that increases your stamina and recovery rate which massively helps when you're pressuring. Don't ignore this fact either. Would Peterson still be able to keep the pressure on Khan, if he wasn't on PED's? Khan isn't a complete fighter but that isn't the debate however. Not every world class fighter can fight good on the inside as well as the outside.

            The performance of Khan in the Peterson fight isn't that bad if you consider the facts that Amir's kryptonite are inside, pressuring fighters.

            So you consider Amir not world class because he arguably beat his kryptonite in the best inside fighter, using PED's that helps your pressuring abilities? Don't expect Amir to start inside fighting. He can't. Would you expect Maidana beating a pure boxer by outboxing him? No, ofcourse not. You would expect him beating him by being the brawler he is.

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              #76
              Originally posted by wazaa.
              Khan arguably beat the best inside fighter of the 140 division at that time. Why are you ignoring this fact?
              Read my post again and you will see that the point I am making is

              "He showed a complete inability to cope with pressure and no inside game. It was his performance not the result that makes me question him as a true world class fighter"

              Peterson may be competent as an inside fighter but other opponents coped with him much better. The bottom line is Peterson really exposed Khan's deficencies and when a fighter is that lacking you ca'nt call him truly world class. I don't rate Alexander as truly world class either.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Prince Mongo
                Read my post again and you will see that the point I am making is

                "He showed a complete inability to cope with pressure and no inside game. It was his performance not the result that makes me question him as a true world class fighter"

                Peterson may be competent as an inside fighter but other opponents coped with him much better. The bottom line is Peterson really exposed Khan's deficencies and when a fighter is that lacking you ca'nt call him truly world class. I don't rate Alexander as truly world class either.
                So you think the use of PED's by Peterson had no effect on Peterson's performance? An increase in stamina and recovery rate didn't help Peterson to keep coming in at Khan?

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                • Prince Mongo
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by wazaa.
                  So you think the use of PED's by Peterson had no effect on Peterson's performance? An increase in stamina and recovery rate didn't help Peterson to keep coming in at Khan?
                  I did not say that and you are missing the point. Peterson is NOT THAT GOOD to begin with so lets say his performance was enhanced you can still make a judgement off his opponent's performance taking that into account.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Prince Mongo
                    I did not say that and you are missing the point. Peterson is NOT THAT GOOD to begin with
                    On the inside, Peterson IS that good. In the 140-147 divisions, only Rios competes with Peterson on being the better inside fighter.

                    Originally posted by Prince Mongo
                    so lets say his performance was enhanced you can still make a judgement off his opponent's performance taking that into account.
                    This is why I have a problem with you brushing the PED usage off as if it is of no significance:

                    Apart from being crushed by Matthysse, Peterson only lost decisively against Bradley. In this fight, Peterson was winning the inside fighting from Bradley and theres a big chance he wasn't on PED's here. What if he was on PED's there? Would the fight have been more competitive? I have no doubt about it that it would.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by wazaa.
                      On the inside, Peterson IS
                      Apart from being crushed by Matthysse, Peterson only lost decisively against Bradley. In this fight, Peterson was winning the inside fighting from Bradley and theres a big chance he wasn't on PED's here. What if he was on PED's there? Would the fight have been more competitive? I have no doubt about it that it would.
                      Peterson said he took the synthetic testosterone because he has a medical condition with abnormally low levels of testosterone. If that is true and I think it is my guess is he was taking synthetic testosterone all the way along and would most likely have been on it in the Bradley fight. I think there is a good chance that the only fight he was clean was the Mattysse fight where he looked well below the physical par we have got used to seeing.He was very durable and the way he was KOd with a glancing blow goes right against his previous pattern of resiliance.
                      Although synthetic testosterone was detected,I would like to know what his overall testosterone level was. Did the synthetic testosterone take him up to normal levels or over where he would have had an unfair advantage?

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