Does Lennox Lewis Beat Both Klitschkos Within 12 Rounds?

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  • Frank Ducketts
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    #11
    Originally posted by nathan_nall
    I think so too... but honestly, people said the same thing when Lennox signed on to fight Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman. Then he'd get paired up with legitimate challengers and humiliate them.
    We are talking about those guys at their best though. A lot of times in fantasy matchups, fans like to take the best version of the fighter that they like and match them with the worst version of the opponent of the fighter that they like.

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    • White_Knight
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Vitali was buzzed quite badly against Corrie Sanders.

      He got knocked out by Pele Reid in kickboxing.
      On 2 occasions, Lennox was knocked out by a single punch.

      Wlad definitely has the power and speed McCall and Rahman had, so we know he could knock out Lewis with a single punch. Also, Vitali was on his way to winning a decision before their fight was stopped on cuts (granted, Lewis was 37, so I'm not saying Vitali would beat a prime Lewis, but he would make it competitive).

      I'm not claiming either Klitschko would beat Lewis, but it is anything but an open-shut case.

      As for the ****head OP and his question, no, Lewis could not KO both in 12 rounds, but if Lewis fought McCall and Rahman back-to-back he might be knocked out twice in 7 rounds (KO 2 & KO 5).

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      • boliodogs
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        #13
        Lewis beat Vitali in 6 rounds on cuts. He cut him up fairly with legal blows. That does not mean he beats him on cuts in six rounds if they fought again.Vitali was giving Lewis a very rough time.It's very possible Lewis would not cut him at all in a rematch. It's also possible Vitali would knock Lewis out. He had Lewis hurt and tired in their fight and Lewis turned down some big money to fight him again in favor of retirement.Lewis was a very good champion but so are the brothers. Lewis was KOed twice in his prime by two pretty average fighters so he was not invincible. I don't think a prime Lewis could beat both brothers in their prime in 6 rounds or less each.He might not even win both fights or either fight.

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        • RINGG
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          #14
          In their primes I think Lewis stops Wlad early and Vitali in the late rounds.

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            #15
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            Lewis beat Vitali in 6 rounds on cuts. He cut him up fairly with legal blows. That does not mean he beats him on cuts in six rounds if they fought again.
            No, but it happened so you can't really argue with it. Lewis won the fight in 6 rounds.

            Thus, for the purposes of this thread you're left with the question...could he beat Wlad in fewer than 6 rounds?

            Imo Lewis beats Wlad but I think it goes beyond 6.

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            • Simurgh
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              #16
              Wlad lennox is 50:50 for me. Both fighters can be hurt, both fighters don't have granite chins. lennox was hurt many times apart from the fights he was knocked out. briggs almost put him down in 1st round of their fight, vitali had him stunned a few times, he had a close fight with holyfield but he won, mercer beat him imo... so he is not unbeatable by any means.. neither is wlad.
              lennox is more versatile, but wlad does have a better defence imo and is slightly faster. he hits a bit harder too but that's not that important. if lennox penetrates wlad's defence and makes it ugly he wins. if they box i favour wlad as he has a bit better jab and better defence and controls the distance a bit better too. both could be knocked down and out... depends who makes the mistake first.

              lennox vitali 55:45 for lennox imo. although vitali is very hard to beat and he can take lennox's best punches his body is his bottleneck imo. he hasn't got wlad's power either. he can outbox lennox as his output is slightly better and if his body doesn't fail him surely he can go to distance.

              both matchups are very close imo.. and to answer the question. the chances that lennox beats them both in 12 are about the same as lennox being KOed by both in less than 12.

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              • nathan_nall
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                #17
                Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
                We are talking about those guys at their best though. A lot of times in fantasy matchups, fans like to take the best version of the fighter that they like and match them with the worst version of the opponent of the fighter that they like.
                Oh, I think I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying a prime Wlad had no business in the ring with a Prime Lewis because Lewis would just demolish him.

                If that were the case, I just meant that Lewis' only losses were to guys that people didn't believe belonged in the same ring with him either. They gave Lewis hate for even agreeing to fight McCall who had never even come close to winning a title and already had 5 loses before the fight. And what did he do? Spanked Lewis for being a naughty boy and stole his WBC belt. That was about three years before Lewis hit his argued "prime" but he was already an established champion. Then, when he was nearing the end of his prime, he got clocked by Hasim Rahman, who not expected to make it out of 5th round by Vegas standards. While it is true Rahman didn't make it past the 5th, it didn't quite go as Vegas odds had planned.

                So moral of the story, I think Wlad is in his prime right now, and he is better than McCall and Hasim Rahman ever were in their respective primes. I would pick Wlad over those two if they tag-teamed him in the ring at the same time. So, while I think Lewis would KO Wlad pretty brutally, my heart wouldn't skip a beat if Wlad didn't knock the nap out of Lewis' dreads.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Lewis would knock out Wladimir. Wlad is basically a bootleg, poor man's Lennox. Lennox is the far more dynamic and adaptable fighter. If they boxed, Lewis is the better boxer. If he wanted to just dog Wlad, he'd blast him out eventually.
                  Totally agree. Look at Lennox fights, he's showing up with a different style virtually every other time out. Wlad is the same damn boring thing every time, and he can't fight on the inside. Lewis can. Lewis punch variety is on such another level that Wlad would be flustered from start to finish.

                  Also, I don't think Wlad hits particularly harder than Lennox.

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                  • yoz
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Totally agree. Look at Lennox fights, he's showing up with a different style virtually every other time out. Wlad is the same damn boring thing every time, and he can't fight on the inside. Lewis can. Lewis punch variety is on such another level that Wlad would be flustered from start to finish.

                    Also, I don't think Wlad hits particularly harder than Lennox.
                    In before someone 'quotes' Manny Steward

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by HooksInYou
                      On 2 occasions, Lennox was knocked out by a single punch.

                      Wlad definitely has the power and speed McCall and Rahman had, so we know he could knock out Lewis with a single punch. Also, Vitali was on his way to winning a decision before their fight was stopped on cuts (granted, Lewis was 37, so I'm not saying Vitali would beat a prime Lewis, but he would make it competitive).

                      I'm not claiming either Klitschko would beat Lewis, but it is anything but an open-shut case.

                      As for the ****head OP and his question, no, Lewis could not KO both in 12 rounds, but if Lewis fought McCall and Rahman back-to-back he might be knocked out twice in 7 rounds (KO 2 & KO 5).
                      Wlad would jab try to jab his way through the fight. That's the difference between him and Lennox.

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