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  • #51
    Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
    yep, rigondo don't hit-n-hold and headbutt like Ward does. And Rigondo fights all over the world, not just in his backyard
    People act like that's all Ward does. Ward is well rounded he does fight a bit dirty at times, but he has skills. He beat Dawson with hardly any clinching at all, just timing and distance control. Ward can fight on the outside, the inside, and from mid range.. He can leap in with leads, or rough you up inside. He can tie up, he can clinch, and he has good/great footwork. My least favorite fight would definitely have to be the Kessler fight. He really felt a need to lead with his head and tie up a lot in that fight, jumping in with singular shots from outside. I was steaming after that fight, but I have seen some of his other fights and he really is brilliant from a technical standpoint.

    The point is he's more versatile than someone like Rigo, who basically just uses his foot and handspeed to outclass opponents. And he's very cautious, so what. Rigo's output is dwarfed by either May or Ward, and that's the major problem here in any kind of honest comparison. I cant honestly say Rigo gets through Ward's resume on a p4p basis, but I'm pretty sure Ward could handle a Nonito type of fighter p4p.

    That should be the barometer. Y'all off in la la land or something. Pretty soon you gonna be saying Rigo is better than Mayweather.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Syf View Post
      People act like that's all Ward does. Ward is well rounded he does fight a bit dirty at times, but he has skills. He beat Dawson with hardly any clinching at all, just timing and distance control. Ward can fight on the outside, the inside, and from mid range.. He can leap in with leads, or rough you up inside. He can tie up, he can clinch, and he has good/great footwork. My least favorite fight would definitely have to be the Kessler fight. He really felt a need to lead with his head and tie up a lot in that fight, jumping in with singular shots from outside. I was steaming after that fight, but I have seen some of his other fights and he really is brilliant from a technical standpoint.

      The point is he's more versatile than someone like Rigo, who basically just uses his foot and handspeed to outclass opponents. And he's very cautious, so what. Rigo's output is dwarfed by either May or Ward, and that's the major problem here in any kind of honest comparison. I cant honestly say Rigo gets through Ward's resume on a p4p basis, but I'm pretty sure Ward could handle a Nonito type of fighter p4p.

      That should be the barometer. Y'all off in la la land or something. Pretty soon you gonna be saying Rigo is better than Mayweather.
      The argument I'll make for Rigo for being better is the following. Mayweather didn't even have Rigo's footwork when he was at 130. Rigo's footwork by far better than both of them. It's not even close. Speed - goes to Rigo. Precision and technicality - Rigo. Two gold medals at the Olympics alone ain't a laughing matter. Rigo's resume and competition with only 12 fights is insane. These two guys were moved carefully. Rigo was ready to fight the best of the best in his first fight as a pro.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
        boxing != hit-n-hold

        boxing != potshotting

        both hit-n-holding and potshotting = boring
        you != smart

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        • #54
          Originally posted by pesticid View Post
          The argument I'll make for Rigo for being better is the following. Mayweather didn't even have Rigo's footwork when he was at 130. Rigo's footwork by far better than both of them. It's not even close. Speed - goes to Rigo. Precision and technicality - Rigo. Two gold medals at the Olympics alone ain't a laughing matter. Rigo's resume and competition with only 12 fights is insane. These two guys were moved carefully. Rigo was ready to fight the best of the best in his first fight as a pro.
          He's off to a good start, but this best in the world stuff is extremely premature. You say Floyd didn't have his footwork at 130? Um, not true. You must have forgot what Floyd was like at 130. Its just Floyd would opt to do other things also, like stand in the pocket, rope a dope, or walk his opponent down. He even has exceptional footwork at the higher weights. Check his Baldomir fight.. He won that fight with footwork. His footwork is on par with Rigo's, even better in my estimation because he can do so much more with it. I was sort of in the school of thought that May had lost his legs a bit now, but he proved everybody wrong with his performance against Guerrero. Floyd is also more economical in his movement but he can jump across the whole ring if he needs to, he showed that in his last fight! Rigo I may give more footspeed to, but footwork is different than footspeed.

          Ward and May are overall more well rounded. And Rigo doesn't make it through May's resume either the same way so just stop.... Rigo already been down twice...in 12 fights. And you dare to compare him to Mayweather who hasn't been down in over 40 fights except from a measly glove touch and a hurt hand 8 count? gtfo!

          lmao I KNEW y'all nsb cats would be tryna say Rigo better than May...

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