Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: Floyd is Not Credited Enough For Carrying Boxing

[junior gong]

You should pay him for owing you , I laugh my head off at you fools and how he owns your mind lol , everyday he dominates this forum because of you haters lol .

Another zelenoff ^^^^

[BabyFaceAssasin]

Floyd has ducked and cherry picked a lot of fighters along the way. He was built up by HBO given the right fights to make him a star especially the Oscar fight. I think he gets credit by most people who actually matter that he is the best fighter of his generation but he missed out on testing himself against a lot of solid competition. I'm getting tired of all the whining from the money team.

[budfr]

The only thing Floyd carries is heavy cheques. Boxing was fine, better even without him when he 'retired' the first time and it'll be so much better when he retires and takes his circus with him. The wife beating, the once a year mismatches, the ducking, the cherrypicking, the failed drug tests, the excuses, the bs, the flowmoes, al Hymen etc. The guy is a stain on the sports history as well as its present, could have given so much but decided to just take instead.

You forgot to mention he is boring as hell. Hugs, runs, and holds arms for half the fight and gets away with it. Can´t KO lightweights either. He has also received gift decisions vs Castillo and De La Hoya. And, most importantly, he makes money by fighting Latinos and they bring in the money. And, amazingly, just like in WWE, people actually pay to see him lose.

[peyk-peyk]

This is the main reason why I'm back. I read each posts and I wonder why I took time off posting here at NSB.

It's like 2008 - 2009 all over again!

[theocdog]

If Floyd were to leave boxing right now, boxing would be more than fine.

[malcolm]

Floyd has ducked and cherry picked a lot of fighters along the way. He was built up by HBO given the right fights to make him a star especially the Oscar fight. I think he gets credit by most people who actually matter that he is the best fighter of his generation but he missed out on testing himself against a lot of solid competition. I'm getting tired of all the whining from the money team.

You're in like every thread hating on Floyd.

You're obsessed. You want to be on the Money Team.

[budfr]

You're a well known Floyd detractor on this forum, I get it, but it's ok to put aside your agenda and judge a fighter objectively. Genaro Hernandez was no push over. Neither was Angel Manfredy. He moved up to 135 and beat the #1 guy there 2 times in a row in Castillo. Moved up to 140 and beat a past prime still good Gatti coming off his Micky Ward victories and 2 consecutive KO wins in title defenses. Then critics said he wouldn't fight Judah because he could lose, he signed on to fight him, Zab went on to get beat by Baldomir and Floyd was hugely criticized for still fighting Zab. Beat him for his IBF title and then immediately beat Baldomir who was the undisputed 147 champion, like it or not. Then jumped to 154 to take Oscar's title, then beat the #1 guy at 140. He retired and guy's like Margarito and Paul Williams were racking up GOAT status victories over Kermit Cintron and redemption victories over Carlos Quintana. Came out of retirement and beat the #2 guy in Marquez, the guy who arguably beat the #1 guy several times. And he beat him at the same weight that he knocked Pacquiao out at. Then he cooked a past prime still good Mosley immediately after he destroyed everyone's favorite fighter in Margaritoand people said that Floyd wold duck him and that he would lose if they had ever fought. Then he went on to KO Ortiz who was, whether you like it or not, the new man at 147. Then he moved back up to 154 to take Cotto's strap. Each of these fighters I named were all World Champions at the time Floyd got to them. Now he's facing Canelo Alvarez, another world champion who everyone say's will be his biggest test, not to mention what he just did to Robert Guerrero, who has never been a pushover. It's actually a pretty decent resume considering the era's & weights in which he fought. But, that's only my opinion.

Wait a minute, he lost to Castillo but received a gift. Gatti was a punching bag. Floyd ran vs Judah and Baldomir like a chicken. Oscar alsfo defeated him in many people´s eyes and recieved a decision as usual. He ducked Margarito bu time, Margo even challenged his ugly azz in person and Floyd said " He is not famous enough ". Marquez ws a lightweight and stiLL couldn´t KO him or hurt him, he even stayed out of harm´s way. He was and still is afraid of Paquiao. Mosley almost KOed him. Cotto was giving him hell but gassed. Ortiz was also giving him hell and cheapshotted him. Guerrero chased him like a chicken and unfortunately was too slow and had the wrong game plan. Yes, Floyd is a great athlete and has great reflexes and defense but a good boxer? Nope. Boring? Yep. Coward? Yep. Hugs like a b1tch? Yep. He is overrated.

[Pocket Dogs!]

Ellerbe: Floyd isn't getting his **** ****** off enough. I can't do all that. I'm just one man.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

final word on floyd...

Dude started his career great, cleaned out 130, taking tough fights like genaro, manfredy back-to-back,,, fighting corrales, herndaez, chavez in one year....

but since the castillo fights he has been lackluster.....
going 12 with sosa and a year latter cotto blasted him out in 4
N'dou was a legit contender so no hate on that..
chop-chop was a legit fight for your first one at 140
but then Bruscles,, pathetic
then gatti,,,, pathetic,, division was loaded at the time
then shambra,,, pathetic especially to fight a career jr welter who just got blasted in 3 by KT
Zab- cool fight, always wanted to see it,, cant hate
Baldomir,, should have been margarito who was better, but baldomir was lineal champ so whatever, cant hate on floyd for getting lineal championship
Oscar- No-brainer,, this is the fight that made him a household name,, no hate for taking this fight at 154..
then retirement, which is B.S. he was the biggest name in the sport, He can make any fight he wants to because he brings the most money, just like oscar, SRL, ALi...Should have fought mosely in 2007 instead of cotto getting shane....
then hatton- thats cool, both undefeated, but would have been much better at 140 to get the lineal title there, plus everyone knew from collazo fight that hatton was crap at welter... but whatever, fight was cool. Floyd knocks him out at 147 or 140
THen retirement..... Should have fought cotto in summer of 2008 when both undefeated and in prime,,,
Cameback vs manny nemesis JMM,, ok fight, props for fighting reigning lightweight champ but jmm is a boxer, he out boxes guys, nobody is going to ever outbox floyd especially one that is older and smalller and slower,, FIght was dead-on-arrival..
then SHane,, ok we finally get the fight and for lineal championship at welter but mosely old as hell, and coming off a 15 month layoff... Big fight but should have happened in 2007 after the oscar fight....
then layoff
cameback for ortiz,,, okay thats cool, long layoff, young power puncher, classic ending,,
Should have fought manny....
then Cotto- about 4 years too late... Cotto will never win another big fight after margs beat down.... even old battered cotto gave floyd a tough fight....
then Ghost... Whatever he was #1 contender but who cares,,, Guerrero was a manufactured opponenet since day 1

Now Canelo-- Sweet fight,, except for the damn catchweight.... now there is an excuse for canelo fans...


Floyd got super skills but honestly took the easy road since becoming the main guy in boxing.....
Ali and SRL and Oscar all took on the biggest names and took them on in their primes..

ALi- frazier, foreman,
srl-duran, hearns,
Oscar- genaro, ike, tito, vargas, shane, hopkins, floyd, manny

[daggum]

final word on floyd...

Dude started his career great, cleaned out 130, taking tough fights like genaro, manfredy back-to-back,,, fighting corrales, herndaez, chavez in one year....


N'dou was a legit contender so no hate on that..

in what universe was he a legit contender?