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  • #81
    Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
    You know Lucas has a lot of technical adaptations that most people miss. He'd do better against Mosley than assumed.
    Lucas is not a total hack, like I said he might be able to do the job similar to how Cotto did it, it would be the reverse though likely with Mosley jumping out and Matthysse trying to reel him back in as opposed to Cotto starting strong then fading.

    But being able to eek out a win against Mosley says what about his chances against a superior fighter even at an aged state.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      Lucas is not a total hack, like I said he might be able to do the job similar to how Cotto did it, it would be the reverse though likely with Mosley jumping out and Matthysse trying to reel him back in as opposed to Cotto starting strong then fading.

      But being able to eek out a win against Mosley says what about his chances against a superior fighter even at an aged state.
      Matthysse has the skills to touch Mayweather and that's all he needs to do to hurt him. When Lucas hurts Mayweather he'll get him out of there.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
        Lucas knocks Floyd out. I'm no Floyd hater, I've never picked against him but if he fights Lucas he will be handed his first loss.
        Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
        Matthysse has the skills to touch Mayweather and that's all he needs to do to hurt him. When Lucas hurts Mayweather he'll get him out of there.
        What I don't understand is why people automatically assume Matthysse's power is going to carry up at 147?

        Matthysse is completely unproven at the weight in every respect. Weight classes do matter.

        If Lucas can get a top 147lb fighter out of there like he did Peterson then I'll be on board with him beating Mayweather, but not before.

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        • #84
          If Lucas lands like Mosley did on Floyd, Floyd's not getting out of the round. Easier said than done, but I give Matthysse a better shot than anyone else, including Canelo.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
            Matthysse has the skills to touch Mayweather and that's all he needs to do to hurt him. When Lucas hurts Mayweather he'll get him out of there.
            I disagree, it is not impossible to catch him as it is a fight after all but Floyd is a very crafty guy when he gets hurt and it is not like he is exactly easy to hurt either or he would have been hurt more in his career.

            Hurting Maywether is only the start of the process and has been done but finishing the process is another matter entirely and I don't think you are giving due to the actual difficulty of that task.

            Matthysse also ain't Julian Jackson he can crack but he isn't that devastating~

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            • #86
              Originally posted by El Angel View Post
              If Lucas lands like Mosley did on Floyd, Floyd's not getting out of the round. Easier said than done, but I give Matthysse a better shot than anyone else, including Canelo.
              I don't see why that would be the obvious conclusion~

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              • #87
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                I disagree, it is not impossible to catch him as it is a fight after all but Floyd is a very crafty guy when he gets hurt and it is not like he is exactly easy to hurt either or he would have been hurt more in his career.

                Hurting Maywether is only the start of the process and has been done but finishing the process is another matter entirely and I don't think you are giving due to the actual difficulty of that task.

                Matthysse also ain't Julian Jackson he can crack but he isn't that devastating~
                Man that 1st kd on peterson was a glancing blow. Zab he's the hardest hitting guy he's been in the ring with.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  I don't see why that would be the obvious conclusion~
                  It's not the obvious conclusion, but it's a stronger possibility for this fight than for any other out there for Floyd at the moment, unless you feel Canelo gives him a better fight.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by El Angel View Post
                    It's not the obvious conclusion, but it's a stronger possibility for this fight than for any other out there for Floyd at the moment, unless you feel Canelo gives him a better fight.
                    Well it could be a tough fight no denying that, but what I was referring to was the first part. Sure it is not impossible that if Floyd gets hurt he doesn't escape but also it is not like Floyd hasn't been stung several times and most of those times he was coming back before the round even ended.

                    So I don't see why a guy who has proven capabilities like that would be done for if he got caught, Mayweather ain't Khan~

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                    • #90
                      So glad this thread has been made, now it can show everyone how hype this guy is. If they fought at 147 Mayweather probably stops Matthysse, easy fight for him.

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