Al Bernstein: "Lennox Lewis Is The Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time"

[Dirk Diggler UK]

How? They both literally have the same defence, the hug and clinch when things get difficult, they don't like brawls, they both have to protect suspect chins so fight behind stiff, well educated jabs. They bot have terrific power when they bother to use it. What are the differences? Maybe Lennox was slightly more aggressive, thats about it.

No actually Lewis could fight on the inside. Lewis threw the right hand with far more regularity, threw hooks and uppercuts. When does Wladimir throw uppercuts? Can you name a Klitschko fight that was as thrilling as Lennox's with Shannon Briggs or Ray Mercer? The most exciting Klitschko fight ever by far involved Lewis.

[toshmurph]

Okay, I thought Marciano was 49-0 but hey he must have lost to LaStarza because you said so...Look up LaStarza's second chance at Marciano too.You could find him on the scorer's table KTFO'd after Marciano broke every blood vessel in his left arm prior to KO. Marciano beat a 37 year old ATG named Joe Louis who was 66-2 going into that fight !!! He also beat EVERYONE in his era that was there at HW to fight. You can only fight the HW that are in your era that are good-great. Larry Holmes was an excellent HW Champ.It wasn't his fault that he had 1 worthy challenger in his prime.

Ali..not even in my top 8 HW ATG.He was a very good HW who was constantly kissing canvas and stealing decision wins (See ass-beatings from Ken Norton).

ATG HW :

The Brown Bomber #1
Brockton Blockbuster #2
Lennox Lewis # 3
Dempsey #4
Vladimir KO #5
Real Deal Holyfield # 6
Easton Assassin Holmes #7
Dr Ironfist # 8
Ali # 9

Wow, so if Joe Louis was the animal he was at 25 and was 66-2 why do you have him above The Rock!? And why bring up the second chance at LaStarza when the guy was talking about the first fight?

The reality is Marciano's 0 is the only reason people consider him a top 10... You don't even have Jack Dempsey in yours, or George Foreman! Even the fact that you have Larry Holmes below Lennox and the Klitschko's is a travesty!

You have Ali at 9 when he was the standout boxer of the Golden Age of the division says it all, this is the worst heavyweight list I've ever seen! Hands down

[toshmurph]

To be fair to him, a lot of people like George Foreman was claiming he was the greatest after Holyfield and Tyson.

But I agree that the klit era has elevated his esteem.

Lennox is a legitimate top 10 - 15 heavyweight but let's be real, I've heard George say that 3 guys are up as the best heavyweights of all time, that's Ali, Louis and Dempsey! I've never heard him mention Lewis..

The most memorable things I've heard him say about him were he's been the most dominant of the previous generation, and that prime Tyson and Bowe beat him!!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lennox is a legitimate top 10 - 15 heavyweight but let's be real, I've heard George say that 3 guys are up as the best heavyweights of all time, that's Ali, Louis and Dempsey! I've never heard him mention Lewis..

[soul_survivor]

No actually Lewis could fight on the inside. Lewis threw the right hand with far more regularity, threw hooks and uppercuts. When does Wladimir throw uppercuts? Can you name a Klitschko fight that was as thrilling as Lennox's with Shannon Briggs or Ray Mercer? The most exciting Klitschko fight ever by far involved Lewis.

Are we comparing excitement levels between Lewis and the Klits or are we agreeing that Lewis is not the best HW ever?

[hugh grant]

Lets face it, Ali will always be known as the greatest, even if he aint the greatest.

[SBleeder]

Ali..not even in my top 8 HW ATG.He was a very good HW who was constantly kissing canvas and stealing decision wins (See ass-beatings from Ken Norton).

Yeah, down four times in 61 fights. Real constant kissing of the canvas.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Are we comparing excitement levels between Lewis and the Klits or are we agreeing that Lewis is not the best HW ever?

I never said Lewis was the best HW ever. We were comparing him to the Klitschkos because you said they were basically the same.

[StarshipTrooper]

Okay, I thought Marciano was 49-0 but hey he must have lost to LaStarza because you said so...Look up LaStarza's second chance at Marciano too.You could find him on the scorer's table KTFO'd after Marciano broke every blood vessel in his left arm prior to KO.

Edgarg's take on LaStarza I is absolutely legit: Many ringside observers had LaStarza winning that first fight and it's mentioned in the newspaper reports of the time. The second fight has nothing to do with the first so I don't know why you even brought it up.

Poet

[Simurgh]

No actually Lewis could fight on the inside. Lewis threw the right hand with far more regularity, threw hooks and uppercuts. When does Wladimir throw uppercuts? Can you name a Klitschko fight that was as thrilling as Lennox's with Shannon Briggs or Ray Mercer? The most exciting Klitschko fight ever by far involved Lewis.

being 'exciting' has nothing with how good the boxer is... Price-Thompson was very exciting..

And 'exciting' is subjective thing...