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Al Bernstein: "Lennox Lewis Is The Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time"

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  • Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
    Lewis just temporarily left his prime against Rahman and McCall.
    And Mercer.

    Oh and don't forget he wasn't motivated for the second Holyfield fight either.

    But everytime he won impressively he was in his absolute prime.

    Prime for Ruddock, but not McCall.

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    • Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
      Lewis just temporarily left his prime against Rahman and McCall.
      hahahah hilarious.

      was that part of the contract with the producers of ocean's 11? You have to leave your prime in order to get the part?
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-05-2013, 09:03 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
        hahahah hilarious.

        was that part of the contract with the producers of ocean's 11? You have to leave your in order to get the part?
        I don't think anyone said he "left his prime" but he clearly wasn't in prime condition in the first Rahman fight.

        People are getting too hung up on this unbeatable tag. Lewis could be beaten just like everyone else. He had his off nights just like everyone else. At his very best though, he is one of the hardest HWs to beat in history.

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        • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          I don't think anyone said he "left his prime" but he clearly wasn't in prime condition in the first Rahman fight.

          People are getting too hung up on this unbeatable tag. Lewis could be beaten just like everyone else. He had his off nights just like everyone else. At his very best though, he is one of the hardest HWs to beat in history.
          If he isn't in prime condition for a title defense that says something about his professionalism and his ability to be beaten. You can't just select his best performances-you look at his whole career.

          That says to me he's great when he's trying to win but once he's won he doesn't put in the same effort, work and preparation-which are the things that directly affect a fighters "beatability".

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          • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
            If he isn't in prime condition for a title defense that says something about his professionalism and his ability to be beaten. You can't just select his best performances-you look at his whole career.

            That says to me he's great when he's trying to win but once he's won he doesn't put in the same effort, work and preparation-which are the things that directly affect a fighters "beatability".
            If you're saying he's beatable when he's not in prime condition then that isn't saying much at all. Fighters sometime fight down to the level of their opposition.

            If he had an ATG like Ali or Foreman in the other corner, you best believe he's taking them seriously and he's going to be very hard to beat.

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            • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
              If you're saying he's beatable when he's not in prime condition then that isn't saying much at all. Fighters sometime fight down to the level of their opposition.

              If he had an ATG like Ali or Foreman in the other corner, you best believe he's taking them seriously and he's going to be very hard to beat.
              Although you are not saying it-you are coming thisclose to suggesting Lewis has a better chance to lose to average and 2nd tier HWT's than he does top tier ATG's because he'd take all of the ATG's seriously but fight to the level of or not take the 1st group seriously.

              The problem is you will fight more of the fisrt group than the 2nd.

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              • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                Although you are not saying it-you are coming thisclose to suggesting Lewis has a better chance to lose to average and 2nd tier HWT's than he does top tier ATG's because he'd take all of the ATG's seriously but fight to the level of or not take the 1st group seriously.

                The problem is you will fight more of the fisrt group than the 2nd.
                Lewis destroys ATGs and tomato cans. Anybody in between might starch him in the early rounds.

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                • Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                  Lewis destroys ATGs and tomato cans. Anybody in between might starch him in the early rounds.

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                  • I think Lewis beat Holyfiled both times quite clearly. I had the second fight 2 rounds for Lennox. Mercer fight was much closer IMO. I actually had Mercer being closer of taking that one.

                    Lennox combined many great things that not many did. He had a great resume, some great wins (beat them all) and he retired on the top. That's quite rare in any division.

                    Regarding H2H I have prime Ali clearly beating him. Wlad/Foreman - Lennox is 50:50 for me. Vitali is pretty close as well but I would favor Lennox. Tyson is a strange one. Very prime Tyson would be a big trouble for both Lennox or Wlad. I doubt he wouldn't land at least once and it might be enough. I would actually give a better chance to Vitali of beating very prime Tyson.

                    Lennox beats Holmes 8-9/10 IMO.

                    Lennox is top3-5 ATG in my book.

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                    • Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                      Lewis destroys ATGs and tomato cans. Anybody in between might starch him in the early rounds.
                      hahahaha. yeah. perhaps Lennox trainer should have eliminated script reading and gone with more running and sparring in preparation for a HWT title defense.

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