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  • #11
    If titles aren't at stake I'm perfectly fine with them. Personally we wouldn't need catch weights if we had same day weigh ins, that's just my personal opinion.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
      You said catchweight, that fight was fought at a catchweight, now that you realized how ****** your comment was, you start making up stipulations. smh

      It wasn't even a catchweight dumbass A catchweight fight is when 2 fighters from different weight classes meet in the middle. Lucas and PEDerson were two 140 pounders fighting at welterweight "141" so Lamont could keep his belt after getting his ass whipped.....Try again ***face.
      Last edited by UTEP; 07-08-2013, 01:13 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by E.P.T. View Post
        I wasn't even a catchweight dumbass A catchweight fight is when 2 fighters from different weight classes meet in the middle. Lucas and PEDerson were two 140 pounders fighting at welterweight "141" so Lamont could keep his belt after getting his ass whipped.....Try again ***face.



        Wait so Floyd vs Canelo is catchweight fight but according to you Lucas vs PEDerson wasn't.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
          Wait so Floyd vs Canelo is catchweight fight but according to you Lucas vs PEDerson wasn't.

          Is somebody going to be drained in the Canelo/Floyd catchweight fight?

          Was anybody drained in the PEDerson/Lucas welterweight fight?

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          • #15
            It depends on the fighters in question and the weights , if it doesn't drain and weaken a fighter Cws are fine to get a fight to happen that otherwise would not , if it does weaken them its not good for the sport and the catch 22 is you never know until after the fight , the danger in CWs is most pro fighters will guess they can make a weight but then find out its not that easy when they have to do it , as a guy ages his body weight is not a manipulative as it was a year ago or 3 yrs ago etc , if you go up its much harder to go back to your old weight because your body retains more , CWs have been used in boxing throughout history .

            You can have a guy CWed down 5 pounds and it improves him because he has been fighting above his best weight with little to no drying out to make weight , then you can have a guy that really struggles to make his division weight and 1 lb less can really hurt him , again you don't know until after the fight unless you have pre signs like Oscar needing IV fluids to gain 2 lb , that's the worst case Ive ever seen of screwed fighter over weight , Margo needing diuretics that's another red flag that a fighter has had big trouble making weight .

            When a fighter has to make a lowering CW that's pushing his limits he must train at a lighter weight all the way through camp , the effect is less muscle mass which converts to less water holding capacity , a CW weight forcing a fighter up is not going to hurt them at all , it will generally make them stronger but also slower and more heavy footed , they may tire earlier than they normally would , its far safer going up than going down , but like I said at the start it depends on the individuals and the weights , you cannot apply a number to all fighters its doesn't work that way .

            Signs a fighter is weight effected , they don't have the strength of being the bigger man , they lack snap on their punches , they don't gas but they plod along in a lethargic way , their punch resistance is less than normal , their response time is less than normal , they don't sweat up like they normally do .

            Training and Nutrition needs to be monitored like a military operation in making a lowering CW , its a mistake to just think it will be the same as always , people would be surprised how much old school ways are still implemented in boxing , although that's changing as more and more fighters are now embracing sports science and nutrition experts , the modern world has finally caught up to the elite of boxing .

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            • #16
              They should be abolished. It ruins the greatness of the fight for me.

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              • #17
                It's prize fighting, not boxing. 2 guys negotiate to get in the ring. No rules to abide by. Holds true even in the ring, if you're a star.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by RicDaRula View Post
                  Catch weights....good or bad for boxing???

                  think about it....with them we get fights that otherwise may never happen....but then again with them we get fights that turnout to be mismatches and blown up legacies....

                  should CW's be abolished from boxing or do you dig them??

                  wachugot??
                  Bad. There is nothing good about fighting boxers at less than their best. You will never see a fighter like Roberto Duran or Lucas matthysse even thinking about a catch weight.

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                  • #19
                    floyd of 2012 says they are bad for boxing
                    floyd of 2013 says they are good for boxing

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                    • #20
                      I wouldn't mind if they abolished them, "to be one-hunnid"

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